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Question: When will Florida have more inhabitants than New York State?
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2014
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2015
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2016
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later
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« on: January 05, 2014, 10:35:37 AM »

Census population for April 1, 2010:

New York: 19,378,102
Florida:     18,801,310


Population estimate for July 1, 2013:

New York: 19,651,127
Florida:     19,552,860


And when it happens, will it be a big talking point in the headlines?
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« Reply #1 on: January 05, 2014, 10:47:57 AM »

If the growth pattern for both states from last year are steady, then FL passes NY at the end of January/beginning of February. This year. Better said, in 3-4 weeks.
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« Reply #2 on: January 05, 2014, 10:54:10 AM »

The gap was 98.000 on July 1, 2013.

FL is growing at a pace of 19.300 every month.

NY is growing at a pace of 6.300 every month.

FL gains 13.000 every month on NY.

98/13 => 7.5 months.

FL will overtake NY in Mid-February.
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« Reply #3 on: January 05, 2014, 10:57:57 AM »

There's also an outside chance that FL overtook NY already in late 2013.

But for this, NY would have needed slower growth and FL faster growth than usual.
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« Reply #4 on: January 05, 2014, 11:03:05 AM »

2014. Florida is almost there! Cheesy
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« Reply #5 on: January 05, 2014, 11:05:16 AM »

There's also an outside chance that FL overtook NY already in late 2013.

Damn! I forgot to enter this option. Sad
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« Reply #6 on: January 05, 2014, 11:09:09 AM »

There's also an outside chance that FL overtook NY already in late 2013.

Damn! I forgot to enter this option. Sad

I would rate the chances of this about 20-30% only.

For example, if FL growth picked up to 300.000 (25.000 a month) and NY steady at 75.000 (6.000 a month), FL would have passed NY already in early December 2013.

But Q1 2014 is the most likely.
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« Reply #7 on: January 05, 2014, 03:00:03 PM »

As someone who predicted slightly faster Floridian growth, and slightly slower New York growth, I am safely assuming 2014 will be the year (since our growth rate is much higher, and we were only down eight thousand while growing 19,000 a month).
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« Reply #8 on: January 05, 2014, 05:17:28 PM »

What are the odds that it'll be a person moving from NY to Florida that puts Florida over the top?
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« Reply #9 on: January 05, 2014, 05:18:20 PM »

What are the odds that it'll be a person moving from NY to Florida that puts Florida over the top?

Somewhat likely actually.
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« Reply #10 on: January 05, 2014, 05:21:28 PM »

Truly it will be a sad day for mankind.
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« Reply #11 on: January 05, 2014, 10:31:21 PM »

Probably pretty soon, but I won't be a part of it. Why people would prefer a season-less, culture-less area like Florida to the northern cities and suburbs I will never understand.
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« Reply #12 on: January 06, 2014, 05:34:16 AM »

Also, NC will pass MI in the next few weeks.
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« Reply #13 on: January 06, 2014, 06:09:58 AM »

Plus D.C. is already bigger than Vermont.
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« Reply #14 on: January 07, 2014, 05:56:27 PM »

Probably pretty soon, but I won't be a part of it. Why people would prefer a season-less, culture-less area like Florida to the northern cities and suburbs I will never understand.

Cultureless? Florida is high on my list of desirable places to visit because I'd like to experience the Cuban-American culture there. Am I mistaken in my impression of the place? I was basing it somewhat off stereotypes.
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« Reply #15 on: January 07, 2014, 06:08:48 PM »

Probably pretty soon, but I won't be a part of it. Why people would prefer a season-less, culture-less area like Florida to the northern cities and suburbs I will never understand.

The weather in Florida is awful, but that's because it's humid all the time, not because it lacks seasons. The thing about seasons is that most of them are awful.
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« Reply #16 on: February 24, 2014, 12:50:53 PM »

Has Florida already become more populous than New York?
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« Reply #17 on: February 24, 2014, 05:24:10 PM »

Also, NC will pass MI in the next few weeks.

And Georgia should be well past 10 million by now!
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« Reply #18 on: March 16, 2014, 03:27:42 AM »

finally!
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« Reply #19 on: March 25, 2014, 01:02:52 AM »

R.I.P. New York State Cry
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« Reply #20 on: March 25, 2014, 01:23:20 AM »

Probably pretty soon, but I won't be a part of it. Why people would prefer a season-less, culture-less area like Florida to the northern cities and suburbs I will never understand.

Cultureless? Florida is high on my list of desirable places to visit because I'd like to experience the Cuban-American culture there. Am I mistaken in my impression of the place? I was basing it somewhat off stereotypes.
There actually aren't that many Cubans down here. The majority of Hispanics are of other origins. And besides: you could get the Cuban culture in New Jersey without having to deal with the crab barell that is Florida.
The truth is that this is horrible news. Florida already has enough *ssholes, we don't need anymore. Our cities are decaying because no one will invest in basic infrastructure and the population is impossible to deal with. Florida is one of the few places where we would need a Nixon to bring law and order.
Also, the only jobs down here are dairy queen jobs. The only employment benefits down here is that you could eat pesticide-laced crops year round. What your racist nativists think is happening to the US by immigrants is happening to Florida by people moving in.
Florida is a great and easy state to live if you have a reasonably good job. The problem is that it is filled with the greatest degenerates the US has to offer from the expatriate New York middle class to the worst parts of the inner city. The problem with Florida is not the climate; it's the people. Unless and until we are willing to have  a real government and a real tax system that is not based on having everything be a tourist trap, Florida will continue to slide back into the state of nature.
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« Reply #21 on: March 25, 2014, 03:50:41 PM »

To think that NY has been the most populated state for most of American history, and now a mere 4th behind Florida, Texas, and California.
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« Reply #22 on: March 25, 2014, 04:54:23 PM »

It's sucks, but it's just hard to combat warm.  Anyone with good taste knows that NYC is beyond glorious and kicks the **** out of anything Florid has to offer.  I'll take solace in that.   
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« Reply #23 on: March 25, 2014, 06:35:49 PM »

To think that NY has been the most populated state for most of American history, and now a mere 4th behind Florida, Texas, and California.

To a large extent, New York can thank our inability to annex Canada for that.  To a large extent New York benefited from being the most convenient U.S. Atlantic port for the Great Lakes states to make use of.  But had Canada been part of the U.S. from the beginning, or even from 1812 onwards, Montreal would have taken over a good bit of that commerce.  New York's decline is not due solely to the deindustrialization of the Rust Belt, but also due to improved transportation that has made New York City less of a chokepoint that it once was.
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« Reply #24 on: December 01, 2014, 12:27:19 AM »

*bump*

Do we know when this happened?
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