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« on: January 06, 2014, 09:56:26 AM »

Best and wrong VP choice for Hillary.

Best:
Wrong:
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« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2014, 12:24:03 PM »

Best: Schweitzer, Warner, Hickenlooper, Villaraigosa, Castro (in case he win a statewide office)
Wrong: O'Malley (from a blue state), Manchin (Upper South is already safe), a woman
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« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2014, 12:40:45 PM »

Best: Schweitzer, Warner, Hickenlooper, Villaraigosa, Castro (in case he win a statewide office)
Wrong: O'Malley (from a blue state), Manchin (Upper South is already safe), a woman

I hate this logic.  Villaraigosa is an idiot and it's irresponsible to nominate him.  You don't nominate idiots to be VP as a political ploy to appeal to a certain demographic, unless you're John McCain. 

VPs don't deliver states in today's politics, if they ever did. 

Hillary Clinton should pick the person who she can work with in her administration and has the skills to be President if need be.  If she picks the best person for that job, everything else takes care of itself. 
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« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2014, 12:52:14 PM »

Best Choices:
- Michael Bennet (Swing State Senator, Geographic balance, Policy expertise on education, Ideal age)
- Mark Warner (Qualified, Immensely popular in a swing state)
- Xavier Becerra (Can help her govern, Comfortable with Media, Qualified Hispanic)
- Tim Kaine (Similar strengths to Warner, but younger and Catholic.)

Worst Choices:
- Most women.
- Most Democrats in their 60s or older.
- Most Northeastern Democrats.
- Antonio Villaraigosa (Strange family history, Controversies about his tenure as mayor of a very left-leaning city.)
- Julian Castro (Very risky, Argument that Mayor of San Antonio is a part time job.)

Choices in the middle would include Brian Schweitzer, John Hickenlooper, Gavin Newsom, Anthony G Brown and Terry McAuliffe (assuming he's reasonably popular as Governor.) The latter three endorsed her in 2008, and bring various strengths to the ticket. Schweitzer has political gifts, but might not be the best team player. Hickenlooper is old, divorced and we don't yet know how well his reelection campaign will go.
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« Reply #4 on: January 07, 2014, 11:14:22 AM »

Best:
Sherrod Brown
Michael Bennet
Steve Bullock
Martin Heinrich
Brian Schweitzer (before he made those comments about her and Obama)
Mark Warner
Young male Senator or Governor in their 40s or 50s, possibly a minority but that's not a requirement who's not from a solid blue state

Wrong:
Tammy Baldwin
Julian Castro
Howard Dean
Al Franken
Mazie Hirono
Terry McAuliffe
Gavin Newsom
Antonio Villaraigosa
Elizabeth Warren
Any other woman you can name
Any other random minority with no experience
Any other member of the Obama Cabinet
Anybody who's older than her
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« Reply #5 on: January 07, 2014, 12:01:31 PM »
« Edited: January 07, 2014, 12:08:11 PM by Chairman Wow »

worst:
Schweitzer

He is just too much star power at the bottom of the ticket.
Also don't see him being a #2, the VP is nothing but a DC critter.
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« Reply #6 on: January 07, 2014, 12:23:42 PM »

Best: Xavier Becerra
Wrong: Elizabeth Warren / Any Mayor
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« Reply #7 on: January 07, 2014, 07:29:33 PM »

Best:
Sherrod Brown
Michael Bennet
Steve Bullock
Martin Heinrich
Brian Schweitzer (before he made those comments about her and Obama)
Mark Warner
Young male Senator or Governor in their 40s or 50s, possibly a minority but that's not a requirement who's not from a solid blue state

Wrong:
Tammy Baldwin
Julian Castro
Howard Dean
Al Franken
Mazie Hirono
Terry McAuliffe
Gavin Newsom
Antonio Villaraigosa
Elizabeth Warren
Any other woman you can name
Any other random minority with no experience
Any other member of the Obama Cabinet
Anybody who's older than her

Wha if that young senator is Cory Booker and you are going up against Chris Christie in General election?
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« Reply #8 on: January 07, 2014, 08:04:40 PM »

Best:
Sherrod Brown
Michael Bennet
Steve Bullock
Martin Heinrich
Brian Schweitzer (before he made those comments about her and Obama)
Mark Warner
Young male Senator or Governor in their 40s or 50s, possibly a minority but that's not a requirement who's not from a solid blue state

Wrong:
Tammy Baldwin
Julian Castro
Howard Dean
Al Franken
Mazie Hirono
Terry McAuliffe
Gavin Newsom
Antonio Villaraigosa
Elizabeth Warren
Any other woman you can name
Any other random minority with no experience
Any other member of the Obama Cabinet
Anybody who's older than her

Wha if that young senator is Cory Booker and you are going up against Chris Christie in General election?
Booker would be an interesting choice.

He'll have been in the Senate for just over three years, after a tenure as a high profile Mayor. So he probably meets the qualifications threshold, and won't be thrown by media attention the way a Steve Bullock might.

It might prevent a dip in African Amercian turnout. He likely has more appeal to younger voters.

And if Christie's the Republican nominee, New Jersey's a swing state.

I'm not sure how effective Booker would be as an attack dog. A former Senator from New York might not want someone from a neighboring blue state on a ticket, which would also now include two Democrats who raised a lot of money from Wall Street.
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« Reply #9 on: January 07, 2014, 08:32:53 PM »

Best: Any male Progressive Democrat (Schweitzer, Feingold, Sanders etc.)
Worst: Another DLC Democrat (Warner, O'Malley etc.)
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« Reply #10 on: January 07, 2014, 08:34:42 PM »

Best: Any male Progressive Democrat (Schweitzer, Feingold, Sanders etc.)
Worst: Another DLC Democrat (Warner, O'Malley etc.)
I highly doubt they would want to put Sanders on a national ticket.
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« Reply #11 on: January 07, 2014, 08:50:16 PM »

Best: Any male Progressive Democrat (Schweitzer, Feingold, Sanders etc.)
Worst: Another DLC Democrat (Warner, O'Malley etc.)
I highly doubt they would want to put Sanders on a national ticket.
And I highly doubt Sanders would accept the offer from someone who many progressives consider to be a friend of Wall Street.
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« Reply #12 on: January 07, 2014, 09:05:50 PM »

Best: Young male. Minority not required but it would work. Some progressiveness would be good. A Westerner would also work here as they are pretty skeptical of Hillary over there.

Worst: Female. Older people as Hillary isn't young herself. A moderate may not look great either as it could make the ticket look too "DLC" for certain liberals.
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« Reply #13 on: January 07, 2014, 09:09:07 PM »

So:

Examples of best: Martin Heinrich, Michael Bennet, Steve Bullock, Sherrod Brown, Brian Schweitzer (before he went rouge on the establishment), John Hickenlooper, Mark Warner

Examples of worst: Amy Klobuchar, Elizabeth Warren, Terry McAuliffe, the Mayors and pretty much any woman.
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« Reply #14 on: January 08, 2014, 01:45:30 AM »

Wha if that young senator is Cory Booker and you are going up against Chris Christie in General election?

Booker would not be my first choice even if Christie was the Republican nominee. He would be alright, but I would have gone with Bennet, Bullock or Heinrich before considering him.
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« Reply #15 on: January 08, 2014, 04:14:50 PM »

Hickenlooper and Warner
Worst Schweizer and O Malley
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