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Filuwaúrdjan
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« on: January 09, 2014, 11:57:09 AM »

Lovely work, as always. More commentary later.
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« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2014, 12:31:21 PM »

Someone come up with a reasonable definition of Bradford, London proper by wards. It might be more Islamic than Tower Hamlets.

You could try the old County Borough boundaries: basically the same as the three 'Bradford' prefixed parliamentary constituencies when taken together. Per constituency we get:

West 51.3
East 36.9
South 12.3

Putting all three together the total for the shabby lovely city is: 34.3
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« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2014, 12:42:44 PM »

Two reasons not mentioned yet for the lack of any Tower Hamlets wards on the list: firstly, creeping gentrification in parts of the borough; secondly, London wards are generally larger.

Due to white flight and the legacy of post-industrialism, many Northern cities have huge racial, religious and linguistic disparities between homogeneous populations living in very close proximity to each other.

There's actually been less conscious white-flight than is popularly assumed; it's just that in most of the old textile towns and cities there is (and was in the 60s and 70s; the principle decades of immigration from Kashmir, Gujarat and Sylhet) a lot of surplus housing (small terraced rows from the last few decades of the 19th century, mostly) not in a particularly good state but not bad enough to be termed 'slum' and torn down in the postwar decades. And two plus two tends to equal four. There's a similar pattern in Birmingham, though it's slightly more complicated.

But, yes, the use and contestation of space in London is different, as are the forms of segregation.
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« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2014, 12:54:34 PM »


Pendle is made up of several towns; Whitefield ward is in Nelson.
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« Reply #4 on: January 14, 2014, 07:24:11 PM »

The trouble with the options that the majority had open to them is that... er... well... it's hard not to get the impression that different people understood the question in different ways. This means that we then have to wonder what exactly is it that's being measured. Which isn't to say that the results are useless, it's just that caution is required when it comes to interpretation.

Happily this isn't an issue with minorities, even if there's an undercount problem on this question and no other - with at least two different sources - with regards to Jews.
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« Reply #5 on: January 14, 2014, 07:46:02 PM »

Though some patterns are still interesting: if you look at that map, note that the very low rates are almost all minority-heavy (to a given definition of minority: Catholics very much included). Places with large student populations tend too have high rates. New Towns often have slightly higher rates than surrounding areas. And once you drill down to ward level in some places other things of interest can some up.
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« Reply #6 on: January 16, 2014, 07:04:07 PM »

Hambleton's figures are very similar to those in Richmondshire and Ryedale: it's just one of the eternal issues with mapping data at work.
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« Reply #7 on: August 31, 2014, 12:29:44 PM »

Not uninteresting, but care should be taken with both the Christian and No Religion results from the census given that we know that there won't have been a uniform (or nearly uniform) interpretation of the answers.* There's no reason to do with religion or religious history that I can think of for the very obvious Severn-Wash effect, for instance. Mostly the figures are useful for extreme results: note the very high percentage in Hebden Bridge (known for its 'alternative' nature), which really sticks out.

*Mind you, even some of the more straightforward sets of census figures are not always as 'accurate' as might be assumed. It is known, for instance, that some people give themselves promotions when answering questions about occupation...
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« Reply #8 on: August 31, 2014, 05:34:11 PM »

Unfortunately in this instance there are very good reasons to suspect geographically significant differences in interpretation. It's a known fact, for instance, that white people are more likely to list their religion as 'Christian' if they live in or right next to a large concentration of minorities.
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