Chris Christie is out after Bridgegate?

[Vern]

No, he he is fine. People don't care about this unless it effected them.

I live near a big city. Traffic jams affect us. This isn't going to help Christie. At all.

You are just say that because you are a hack. Fact is the average vote will not hear about this and think anything of it.

[I Will Not Be Wrong]

No, he he is fine. People don't care about this unless it effected them.

I live near a big city. Traffic jams affect us. This isn't going to help Christie. At all.

You are just say that because you are a hack. Fact is the average vote will not hear about this and think anything of it.

Bandit has said he believes the 2004 election was stolen, and that Hillary can win Kentucky. I hope he was kidding.

[Bandit3 the Worker]

You are just say that because you are a hack. Fact is the average vote will not hear about this and think anything of it.

Too late. People know about it already.

[Mordecai]

If Christie is too tarnished by this to run, the Republicans are basically screwed in 2016. They've purged just about anyone who can win an election outside a red state or a heavily gerrymandered CD.

Jeb Bush isn't going to cut it. Maybe when his grand kids are grown and enough Americans who remember his brother are dead, one of them can run.

Who else do they have ? Ted Cruz? Rick Santorum? Mitt Romney  v3.0? Rick Perry? Paul Ryan?

They could draft Martinez.

[morgieb]

No, he he is fine. People don't care about this unless it effected them.

That's probably a fair proportion of people tbf.

[morgieb]

Hard to tell btw. Depends on how much more comes out of it. He was clearly running, and as it is it probably isn't enough to sink him.

However there's no denying his bi-partisan appeal has been damaged, and therefore so has his creditability as a candidate.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Yeah, it's over. He was always going to face a tough primary, but now that his opponents would have another argument than ideological purity, he's probably toast. I'm pretty sure another establishment Republican will emerge by 2016, and he'll end up Giuliani-ed.

[Flake]

The -gate at the end of this is annoying and overused.

To answer OP: Of course not, Romney had a lot of baggage and he won the Republican nomination.

[I Will Not Be Wrong]

The -gate at the end of this is annoying and overused.

To answer OP: Of course not, Romney had a lot of baggage and he won the Republican nomination.

And look what happened.

[You kip if you want to...]

No, he he is fine. People don't care about this unless it effected them.

I live near a big city. Traffic jams affect us. This isn't going to help Christie. At all.

You are just say that because you are a hack. Fact is the average vote will not hear about this and think anything of it.

It's been covered in Britain on the New at 6 and 10. If it's being covered even here, I'd expect it to be pretty salient in the US.

[Mr. Illini]

Strong no. These things tend to be forgotten, especially when they come up nearly three years out of the election. It will be brought up in the primaries and general, but the initial outrage is coming far too early for it to wreck his campaign.

[eric82oslo]

Nope. He handled the crisis surprisingly well. I think he's still the one to beat. And you know what? Most Republicans love bullies. They already supported one: Mitt Romney. And another: George W. Bush, as with his 2004 campaign was personally responsible for the suicide of thousands of gay teens all over the states.

[ag]

No, he he is fine. People don't care about this unless it effected them.

I live near a big city. Traffic jams affect us. This isn't going to help Christie. At all.

You are just say that because you are a hack. Fact is the average vote will not hear about this and think anything of it.

There is every reason to believe that from now on this will be the main thing everybody will be hearing about Christie for, at least, a few months

[ag]

The thing is, you do not simply decide one day to do something of this nature on a whim without any antecedents. They were so brazen because they believed, this is how things are done. Because this is how they operated in that circle. Most likely, in this particular case there was no direct order from Christie - I would be shocked if there were. But it is also almost certainly true that before they got to this degree of brazen stupidity, they were skirting the boundary for a while - likely occasionally crossing it here and there.

And now the entire attention is on them - things will be dug out. There will be prosecutions. People will be (already are) thrown under the bus. People, who are thrown under the bus, generally do not like that - they will start testifying (if for no other reason, then simply to get immunity). This is very likely to become a death by thousand cuts - eventually something crucial will come up.

[Keystone Phil]

PPP polling tonight in NH and NC shows Christie still in the lead with overwhelming majority saying Bridge-gate doesn't affect their feelings at all. Christie doing better in NH than he did in their September poll.

BUT IT'S ALL OVERRRR!!!!1

From the snipets of the press conference that I've seen, I'm pleased with how he responded. My opinion will only change if he authorized or knew well in advance.

[henster]

PPP polling tonight in NH and NC shows Christie still in the lead with overwhelming majority saying Bridge-gate doesn't affect their feelings at all. Christie doing better in NH than he did in their September poll.

BUT IT'S ALL OVERRRR!!!!1

From the snipets of the press conference that I've seen, I'm pleased with how he responded. My opinion will only change if he authorized or knew well in advance.

What poll?

[Mr. Morden]

PPP polling tonight in NH and NC shows Christie still in the lead with overwhelming majority saying Bridge-gate doesn't affect their feelings at all. Christie doing better in NH than he did in their September poll.

BUT IT'S ALL OVERRRR!!!!1

From the snipets of the press conference that I've seen, I'm pleased with how he responded. My opinion will only change if he authorized or knew well in advance.

What poll?

PPP's NH and NC polls, which are in the field right now:

https://twitter.com/ppppolls/status/421465306729435136

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https://twitter.com/ppppolls/status/421465420114059264

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https://twitter.com/ppppolls/status/421466179635408897

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[Flake]

Henster: The GOP field, no info out whether or not Christie is in the lead in NH/NC in the general election.

Edit: Mr. Morden beat me to it.

[morgieb]

Well...looks like I need to change my views on this topic. I'd like to see some general election polls first.

[I Will Not Be Wrong]

Looks like Christie is still a Teflon governor, at least to Republicans. Or his speech was very widely well received.

[Comrade Funk]

Americans don't care about the NSA spying them, so why would they care about this? Whatever. Christie is still overrated imo.

[Bandit3 the Worker]

Anthony Weiner was forced out of office for much less than this. So were Jim Wright and Tony Coelho.

[Bandit3 the Worker]

The "scandal" against Coelho was largely played up by the right-wing media so George H.W. Bush would get credit for the Americans with Disabilities Act (which Coelho had authored). The media hoists high the politics of partisan vindictiveness.

[henster]

I don't think there's ever been a politician that's as overrated as Chris Christie seriously look past all the BS about him and you'll see who he really is.

[TJ in Oregon]

No. Not unless it comes out that he knew or ordered the lane closures as retribution. For it to convince anyone other than people who wouldn't have supported him anyway, it has to actually reflect on him, not some of his subordinates.