Has political correctness gone too far (especially during the winter season)?

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Has political correctness gone too far...

Complaining about political correctness going too far certainly has gone too far.  I get a deluge of memos at work about all kinds of things include how we must refer to various things.  None of them have had anything to do with political correctness.  It's work.  If you work at an organization that is a certain size or above you get memos all the time.  It's not a reason to cry on the internet.

How exactly is Family Guy a vulgar show?

Using abortion as a punchline is vulgar, dude.  That doesn't mean I don't like the show.  But it is what it is.  What's the purpose of pretending it's something else?

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The main point is not the legal principle of the act, but rather one's ability not to care. If you're not Christian and you see a little nativity scene in front of the fire house as you're driving through on your way to a "Holiday" bash in a larger city, don't call the ACLU. While you might be right in the general principle of government impartiality towards religion, the fact that you're getting to make a huge ruckus about something like that and let it distract you from drinking bourbon mixed with egg nog while your friends sing holiday songs around the fire wearing awful sweaters is more an indictment of your character than that of the head of the fire precinct.

And not removing an "offending" Nativity scene merely indicts someone is a petty sniveling douche.  I certainly wouldn't go to court and waste tax payers money over something like that.

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Which episode of Family Guy used abortion as a punchline

Why the ph-ck does it matter?  You think I have time to come on the internet and tell a derogatory lie about a cartoon I like?  WTF?

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I could probably concur with that. I personally would never have a nativity on government property, seeing as I hate moving blow molds, and would, I admit, have the same attitude towards removing them. Hopefully, if I were the executive, I could just order some underlings to do the real work.

As with most things in this country I think the vast majority 90+% really don't care.  Even if someone was Hindu or Muslim they probably wouldn't notice or care about a Nativity Scene in front of the local fire department.  All it takes is one troll to stir up trouble.  Technically I think the way the Constitution is written Nativity Scenes should not appear in front of government buildings but it's not a rule I would go nuts about in a lot of towns.  If it is a town with a high Jewish, Hindu, and/or Muslim population then yeah I can see toning it down a bit.

I mean if I moved to the middle east I would not be offended when people celebrated Jewish or Muslim holidays.

I don't think there is a trend with political correctness.  I just think their are more trolls and more legal precedent for them to troll with.  But the majority of the people are like whatever.

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The left trying censor religious speech or stupid words like "penmanship".

Absolute most ridiculous strawman in the history of the Atlas Forum. If you were joking, very nice, because I literally LOLed for about 20 seconds at the sheer absurdity of it.

http://www.ijreview.com/2013/05/49446-new-washington-state-law-bans-words-penmanship-freshman-fisherman-as-sexist/

I'm not joking.

Meh, whatever. Some fool in Washington goes overboard with his word list on an otherwise OK bill, and you spin it to "those loony liberals are banning the word "penmanship" for being sexist!!!!"

I was spinning it? lol This thread is about political correctness, right?

<Not sure if srs>  Yes, you listed "The right for trying to censor 'immorality' as they call it," and
 "The left trying censor religious speech or stupid words like 'penmanship'," as your examples of how political correctness has gone amok.

By listing them as your two examples, you implied that they were a big deal and around equal in stature.  I'll grant that the right does often try to enforce its moral code on the country, and that that is a nationwide thing, but it's very obviously absurd to suggest that censoring the word "penmanship" is some kind of general characteristic of liberals.  It happened once in one state, buried inside a non-ridiculous bill.  Virtually no liberal in the entire country supports it. It's textbook, indisputable spin on your part to imply otherwise.

This.

I was going to say something but going around and correcting the baseless hyperbole of trolls just get's tiring.

I wonder how often these right wingers use the word "penmanship"?  If this is the example of the horrors of liberalism I guess we can consider liberalism pretty benign.

Against my better nature I clicked on the link to the "source."  The guy that runs the site goes by the name "bubba."   So as usual another great source.

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So, the name "bubba" isn't politically correct either? It's a wonder you liberals can even speak...

Why are you using "politically correct" as an adjective to describe everything from apples to zebras?  Is this a new annoying libertarian thing?

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So, the name "bubba" isn't politically correct either? It's a wonder you liberals can even speak...

Why are you using "politically correct" as an adjective to describe everything from apples to zebras?  Is this a new annoying libertarian thing?

The better question is what do you have against the name bubba?

Who said I had anything against the name "bubba"?  What I have a problem with is people on the internet making sweeping erroneous proclamations about large swaths of the country and using as their only "proof" some random guy on the internet named "bubba."

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I'm not at all implying that liberals are "loony" or anything. But...

Lol.  So you are calling them "loony."

But there's been multiple examples of things like this, with word bans, and censoring certain objects as well, because they might be deemed racist or sexist.

So you're saying there have been a multitude of examples covered by reputable sources in the legitimate press but "Bubba's" website was used as the sole source for this little rant because...



My advice to you is to get a job.  Every large corporation or government entity I've ever worked at has controlled language in the work place for various reasons that most of the time have nothing to do with "political correctness."  If you are just now learning about this practice from "Bubba" of all people you need to start working on your career.

And as was stated it makes sense to remove gender from legal documents unless the law specifically pertains to one gender to avoid having to deal with @$$hole lawyers who will try and get their female clients off because a law only refers to "men."  This whole situation reminds me of the right wing idiots that applauded Herman Cain's "three page bills."  I mean how much of a moron do you have to be to not realize why bills are so long and complicated.  You have to nail down every loophole or else the lawyers and trolls come out of the woodwork.

And I really wonder how little is going on in someone's life who who notices let alone cares an obscure state law's wording was changed to eliminate the word penmanship.  Are Blue and Yellow avatars using the word "penmanship" a lot?  If this is the worst thing that has happened to you this month then... you must be white, male, and fairly well off.

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. . . Every large corporation or government entity I've ever worked at has controlled language in the work place for various reasons that most of the time have nothing to do with "political correctness."

To expand on that line of thought, large corporations tend to be led in an authoritarian fashion and have illiberal cultures on account of their fixation on profit. Government entities meanwhile cannot tend to their assigned tasks without funding, and anything that could call that funding into question or threaten career- or legacy-focused leaders could easily provide motive to control the conduct of their workers. In a lot of ways we are routinely pressured to set aside our rights in exchange for opportunities to have work, enjoy forms of leisure, and - more fundamentally - survive.

Actually most of the time it is far more mundane than that.  Often there is a health and safety component.  They want everyone on the same page to minimize accidents and cock ups.  I mean we all remember the $300+ million Mars probe that was slammed into the planet simply because one set of engineers was using Imperial measurements and another was using metric.  Of course if a directive came down banning the use of imperial units within NASA some screwball libertarian/tea party/conservative BS website run by a "bubba" would claim it is some new world order plot by the UN to take over 'Murica.

I mean it is just time to cut the drama.

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http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msp98/news/mco990930.html

Oh, no!  Politically correct spaceships are coming soon!!!

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The preceding post has been sent to the deluge.  Seldom have I seen such a leap of illogical connection between two topics as what you have just achieved here.

I don't know what to tell you.  Language is for communication.  And within large diverse organizations particularly those that interface with the broader public there are times when an elevated degree of consistency and formality are demanded.

Also you have to understand within the bowels of such organizations there are tons of middle managers that must have endless meetings and put forth proposals whether they are really necessary or not.  Some of the language proposals come from such a process.  It's not "political correctness" as such but just another symptom of US private and public sector organizations filled with people who must appear to be doing something and instead of coming up with something useful just take something that was useful and just bastardize it into numerous other pointless iterations.

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How is that disrespectful and impolite? I mean, they immigrated illegally, so that's the most logical thing to call them.

You've gone over the speed limit at least once in your life right?  That's illegal.  Why don't we call you an illegal?  Why do we cherrypick this crime and label the people "illegals" and give you a free pass?

If someone is brought to this country at two years old and they only find out for the first time they are not a US citizen at age 16 why would you call that person an "illegal"?

I agree with Senator Goldwater.

My mother, my aunt, and my cousin all immigrated to this country from the Philippines legally, why can't they?

And I'm sure if you were brought here without proper documents at two years of age when you turned sixteen you would emancipate yourself from your parents and "self deport" back to the Philippines and tell everyone there you were an "illegal" from America.  Riiiggghhhttt...

The only difference between you and the people you are calling "illegals" is you had the dumb luck to be born a different set of parents.  None of us is buying it for even a millisecond you wouldn't be doing the exact same thing as them if circumstances were different.