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« on: January 12, 2014, 01:59:25 PM »
« edited: January 30, 2014, 07:33:41 AM by MW Archduke windjammer »
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« Reply #1 on: January 12, 2014, 03:12:09 PM »
With Gasoline to top $115 a gallon, it is crucial we start to move the region to bio-fuels. Section 2 will probably need to be amended for clarity. I feel that the rest of the bill is pretty self-explanatory.
We have around 9,000 gas stations so the fund in section is adequate, if the pricing is around $1 Million a pump, which is what I have seen.
Before we look at cutting the amount down, I remind everyone that we have a $42.7 Billion dollar surplus we have not allocated.
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« Reply #2 on: January 12, 2014, 08:02:41 PM »
I think this is a nice proposition that would help make the Midwest energy self-sufficient. I really have no issues with this bill, so I'll just say that I support this.
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« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2014, 10:25:30 AM »
I support the law.
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« Reply #4 on: January 13, 2014, 11:07:32 AM »
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I think this is a nice proposition that would help make the Midwest energy self-sufficient. I really have no issues with this bill, so I'll just say that I support this.
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« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2014, 03:07:15 PM »
I'm all for this, but I have a few doubts: First: "By January 1, 2020, at-least 50% of all vehicles sold in the Midwest shall be able to run on 100% biofuel.", is there any way to enforce this in a more direct way? Second, why the October tax break? (I don't oppose a tax break here, I'm just curious).

Also, I wish to offer an amendment on grammar grounds:

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« Reply #6 on: January 14, 2014, 07:09:46 PM »
Quote from: Midwest Governor Lumine on January 13, 2014, 03:07:15 PM
I'm all for this, but I have a few doubts: First: "By January 1, 2020, at-least 50% of all vehicles sold in the Midwest shall be able to run on 100% biofuel.", is there any way to enforce this in a more direct way? Second, why the October tax break? (I don't oppose a tax break here, I'm just curious).

Also, I wish to offer an amendment on grammar grounds:

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October is National Energy Education Month (or something to that effect). Honestly, I am not entirely sure how to enforce that in more detail. After an inspection or random audit maybe?
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« Reply #7 on: January 14, 2014, 10:02:33 PM »
I'm not sure about random audits, I imagine the psychological effect wouldn't be strong enough to force people to make those changes. Six years are a long time, but perhaps not long enough for some, which I why I feel we have to come up with a mechanism. Perhaps we could use an annual Vehicle inspection for that effect?
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« Reply #8 on: January 14, 2014, 11:36:55 PM »
Quote from: Midwest Governor Lumine on January 14, 2014, 10:02:33 PM
I'm not sure about random audits, I imagine the psychological effect wouldn't be strong enough to force people to make those changes. Six years are a long time, but perhaps not long enough for some, which I why I feel we have to come up with a mechanism. Perhaps we could use an annual Vehicle inspection for that effect?
That sounds like it could work but I would see how it is drafted before I can support it.
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« Reply #9 on: January 15, 2014, 06:12:48 PM »
Hmmmmm...

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How about this?
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« Reply #10 on: January 15, 2014, 08:20:21 PM »
Quote from: Midwest Governor Lumine on January 15, 2014, 06:12:48 PM
Hmmmmm...

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How about this?

I don't like it. I think it is to punitive. It also places undue burden on cars made and sold before the enactment of the law.
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« Reply #11 on: January 17, 2014, 06:49:30 AM »
So, GAworth, you're hostile to Lumine's amendment?
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« Reply #12 on: January 18, 2014, 12:32:17 PM »
Hostile
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« Reply #13 on: January 19, 2014, 12:48:20 AM »
Very well, any thoughts on how to change it from Arturo or Cris?
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« Reply #14 on: January 19, 2014, 04:04:17 AM »
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This?
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« Reply #15 on: January 19, 2014, 05:18:43 AM »
Quote from: Midwest Governor Lumine on January 15, 2014, 06:12:48 PM
Hmmmmm...

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How about this?


I call a 48 hour vote about Lumine's amendment
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« Reply #16 on: January 19, 2014, 02:26:27 PM »
I vote in favor of Lumine's amendment.
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« Reply #17 on: January 19, 2014, 07:04:33 PM »
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« Reply #18 on: January 19, 2014, 07:52:22 PM »
Hmmmmm... The amendment might pass, but still, we have two Representatives now, so we need both of them to vote in favor. Now, if we were to push the deadline a few more years into the future and reduce the bill, would that suffice?
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« Reply #19 on: January 20, 2014, 08:25:49 AM »
Quote from: Midwest Governor Lumine on January 19, 2014, 07:52:22 PM
Hmmmmm... The amendment might pass, but still, we have two Representatives now, so we need both of them to vote in favor. Now, if we were to push the deadline a few more years into the future and reduce the bill, would that suffice?

Archduke has called a 48 hours vote. I have others hours for decide, but I'am still undecided on the Lumine's emendament.
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« Reply #20 on: January 20, 2014, 02:08:47 PM »
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« Reply #21 on: January 20, 2014, 02:11:13 PM »
GAworth's vote is valid?
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« Reply #22 on: January 20, 2014, 10:11:27 PM »

Of course, he still has to swear in as the SoIA.
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« Reply #23 on: January 20, 2014, 10:27:46 PM »
Last time I checked I have not been confirmed yet.
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« Reply #24 on: January 21, 2014, 06:20:11 AM »
So there is a tie, I must break the tie:
NAY
Lumine's amendment fails
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