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« on: January 13, 2014, 03:48:40 PM »

Read this thread that I started on a similar site, talking about how the nation trended in 2012:

http://conservativepoliticalforum.com/political-discussion-and-debate/2012-trends-how-is-the-nation-trending/

I'm currently in a debate against someone who is denying the factual assertion that Georgia trended Democrat and that Mississippi swung Democrat in 2012. Apparently I'm engaging in "idiocy" for citing actual election results (or, as he called them, polls).

If you're having a bad day, and need to have a good laugh, just fix yourself a nice drink, sit back, and enjoy laughing. This is getting good. xD
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« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2014, 03:51:08 PM »

Just a couple weeks ago a South Carolian didn't believe me when I said the state didn't trend Republican last year.
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« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2014, 03:53:17 PM »

Just a couple weeks ago a South Carolian didn't believe me when I said the state didn't trend Republican last year.

This guy doesn't seem to believe that states trend in any direction but Republican.
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« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2014, 03:58:11 PM »

What a sad man. Tongue
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« Reply #4 on: January 13, 2014, 04:13:57 PM »

That's actually a pretty apt microcosm for conservative reactions to the 2012 election in general.
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« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2014, 04:18:32 PM »

That's EXACTLY what that thread and forum represents. Such entertainment.
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« Reply #6 on: January 13, 2014, 04:43:33 PM »

Ha, wow. What a bunch of clueless idiots who deny mathematical facts... Grin
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« Reply #7 on: January 13, 2014, 05:04:44 PM »

Wow, it's not just some rando either, it's an admin with 11k posts. I also expected confusion over swing and trend to be the primary cause of confusion, but actually denying that Romney won Mississippi by a smaller margin than McCain is seriously wtf.
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« Reply #8 on: January 13, 2014, 05:13:58 PM »

I checked out the whole forum. It's filled with a bunch of lunatic conservatives who live outside the reality box. Seriously. JRP seems to be one of the few sane people on there....
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« Reply #9 on: January 13, 2014, 05:25:39 PM »

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I cannot begin to describe how idiotic they sound.
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« Reply #10 on: January 13, 2014, 08:11:45 PM »

I expected a bunch of krazens but these guys make krazen look like Bernie Sanders.
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« Reply #11 on: January 13, 2014, 09:39:58 PM »

Guys, it's getting better. He just called the 2012 election results "some numbers on the internet."
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« Reply #12 on: January 13, 2014, 09:42:53 PM »

Why on earth does that site want you to be at least 21 years old? That's discriminatory to 18 year old adults. What a great way for conservatives to get younger voters.
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« Reply #13 on: January 14, 2014, 04:47:35 AM »
« Edited: January 14, 2014, 04:50:50 AM by Nichlemn »

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Correct.  The numbers he verified were greater for Obama than they really were.[/quote]

wat.

(In case you weren't sure - all statewide offices in GA are controlled by Republicans).
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« Reply #14 on: January 14, 2014, 08:12:24 AM »

So wait, did someone seriously deny that blacks at the moment tend to favor Democrats by at least an 80% margin, numbers that are backed up by statistics?

HAHAHAHAAHAHHAHAHAHHA
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« Reply #15 on: January 14, 2014, 08:24:27 AM »

Well before I go to work I, I guess I should comment very quickly (ugh, not enough time in the world!) about a particularly interesting observation made by the user "taxed".  His observation, as a direct challenge to JRP, is that he had lived all of his life in Georgia and that from he can tell Georgians aren't coming anywhere near close to being more Democratic.  This really, really says it all about a lot of conservative bias, in that they rarely see the rest of the world outside their own immediate environs.  This guy seems to be one of those who hasn't been to Atlanta in YEARS, if not DECADES, and probably lives in a Southern suburb where the electorate tends to skew overwhelmingly white and overwhelmingly Republican.  I can tell you, from living in one of those places, it's like an icebreaker for someone to say "man, those Democrats could've really used a good Economics degree" or something.  Which might explain some of the disbelief to the actual results, as it flies in the face of most everything they believe and what 70% of everyone around them believe.
I can imagine that some people in Vermont probably thought similarly when someone told them the state was trending Democratic in 1980.  "This state has been Republican since Lincoln!  Quit smoking your dope!  This isn't Arkansas!"
Though to be fair, I think that a lot of red avatars and Democrats might sometimes fall into this same category.  Bias is kind of a two way street.  On here, however, current political realities tend to be taken on factual basis and as they happen.  I can't imagine ANYBODY, except maybe a troll or two, seriously denying that Atlanta is a Democratic city.

Alright, see ya!

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« Reply #16 on: January 14, 2014, 02:03:32 PM »

Though to be fair, I think that a lot of red avatars and Democrats might sometimes fall into this same category.  Bias is kind of a two way street.

Not to the same extent though, that's a false equivalence. Those guys on the conservative forum might as well live in a completely different world. Their Kool-Aid is spiked with lead paint. Even when you show them the numbers they call you an idiot and say you don't know what you're talking about.
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« Reply #17 on: January 14, 2014, 05:15:50 PM »

The closest Democratic/left-wing equivalent here is probably bandit. Though at least he doesn't straight up deny election results (to my knowledge). He's just wildly optimistic and cherry-picks the past data that fits his narrative.

One major factor is that Democrats won recently, so Republicans are more likely to conjure up conspiracy theories as a defense mechanism. Consider that lots of Democrats thought both 2000 and 2004 were stolen. (Granted, less absurd than thinking Georgia was rigged). I suspect, though, you could have found a few Democrats after 2010 who thought many races were stolen despite the generally Democratic control that existed beforehand.
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« Reply #18 on: January 14, 2014, 05:22:57 PM »

oh my god the stupidity. I feel really bad for you actually, desperately trying to reason with the posters but they're just not getting it. As the regulars on conservative political forum might say (catchy name by the way)  "you can't fix stupid."
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« Reply #19 on: January 14, 2014, 05:55:54 PM »

oh my god the stupidity. I feel really bad for you actually, desperately trying to reason with the posters but they're just not getting it. As the regulars on conservative political forum might say (catchy name by the way)  "you can't fix stupid."

Yeah, these people are not very bright.
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« Reply #20 on: January 14, 2014, 10:09:51 PM »
« Edited: January 14, 2014, 10:13:35 PM by Flawless Victory »

Though to be fair, I think that a lot of red avatars and Democrats might sometimes fall into this same category.  Bias is kind of a two way street.

Not to the same extent though, that's a false equivalence. Those guys on the conservative forum might as well live in a completely different world. Their Kool-Aid is spiked with lead paint. Even when you show them the numbers they call you an idiot and say you don't know what you're talking about.

Granted.  I even acknowledged that right after I said this quoted part.  Literally.

But with that small nitpick aside, these people are pretty goofy.  It is pretty amazing that some people think that blacks are voting more than 18% REpublican, after all.
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« Reply #21 on: January 15, 2014, 04:39:01 AM »

This kind of thing is what makes the GOP so up appealing to me. The Republican voters are even worse than the Republican office holders. What kind of person refuses to acknowledge the validity of concrete, objective facts and figures and expects to be taken seriously?

I have a fiscally conservative friend with two Ivy League degrees who votes Democratic because, as she once told me, "I can't see how an educated person could vote for a Republican."
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« Reply #22 on: January 15, 2014, 07:57:26 AM »

Reminds me of J. J.

After the 2012 election he still tried to argue PPP was unreliable by comparing them to the average of all pollsters...even though PPP's results were closer to the actual results than the average.
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« Reply #23 on: January 15, 2014, 08:17:21 AM »

Why don't you post the link for this thread in that Forum.
I'd like to see their reaction after they read the opinion some conservatives here about them.
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« Reply #24 on: January 15, 2014, 08:19:27 AM »

NO. We don't want any of them registering here.
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