How should the GOP try to win over more Hispanics and Aisans?

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Asians: Stop the anti-intellectualism and religious fundamentalism. Asians can be very conservative and devoutly religious, but they also value higher education and knowledge so you'll scare them aware if you scream about how evolution is lies from the pit of hell and how education is elitist.

Asians highly value education. Cutting education and expanding school voucher is a big red flag.

Oh, and being the anti-intellectual, anti-science party doesn't help.

Yeah Asians they are really into science and the Republicans in Washington DC are boring on that topic or are labeled as anti-science

School Vouchers? I don't get who wouldn't be for school vouchers I mean if your kid was stuck in a failing school.....

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Hispanics: Immigration reform (obviously). Also, stop pandering to the racists. Simple as that.

Asians: Stop the anti-intellectualism and religious fundamentalism. Asians can be very conservative and devoutly religious, but they also value higher education and knowledge so you'll scare them aware if you scream about how evolution is lies from the pit of hell and how education is elitist.

I'd say that a lot of it is mainly rhetoric and attitude. Democrats don't particularly target Hispanics and Asians, but they get their vote anyway because the rhetoric from Republican politicians scare them away. It's the same with African Americans, gays, and atheists. All of these minority groups have their conservative wings and would be willing to vote Republican if they didn't feel that the party was against them.

Well yes and no. Mexicans are pretty "centrist/moderate" in terms of idealogy on a political scale. The GOP lost them after a few stupid Republicans(after 2004 or 2006) started their anti-immigration rhetoric and the AZ immigration law didn't help matters. Puerto Ricans are liberal in my opinion and I don't think they are gonna vote Republican anytime soon in big numbers.

African Americans-Yes they are culturally conservative but they like Big Government economically(a liberal populist idealogy.) Blacks might vote more Republican in the Western Party of the US but on the East Coast and the Deep South they are Solid D voters.

I just don't get it a few stupid Republicans say something off the wall and people believe  that's what the Republican Party stands for. Its not like these members speak for the whole party. That's what the mainstream media does they say this is the Republican Party(the member who just said something stupid) and people believe it. Its kind of laughable. I do it admit the AZ immigration has to be one of the stupidest thing a Republican has ever done to offend a group of people(Mexicans/Hispanics.)

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I just don't get it a few stupid Republicans say something off the wall and people believe  that's what the Republican Party stands for. Its not like these members speak for the whole party. That's what the mainstream media does they say this is the Republican Party(the member who just said something stupid) and people believe it. Its kind of laughable. I do it admit the AZ immigration has to be one of the stupidest thing a Republican has ever done to offend a group of people(Mexicans/Hispanics.)

Well people assume Republicans endorse those remarks because no Republican politicians stand up to denounce them. This is not the fault of the mainstream media, either. They are just reporting what the Republicans say.

The problem is so bad that even registered Hispanic Republicans working to improve the party's relations with the Hispanic population can't put up with it anymore.

Pablo Pantoja, director of the Florida Republican Party's Hispanic Outreach program, resigned from the party last year and registered as a Democrat because Republicans would not rebuke the racism. Read his letter and the interview he did with Salon.

http://thefloridanation.com/?p=555

http://www.salon.com/2013/05/14/why_i_quit_the_republican_party/

You can laugh and blame the media all you want but it doesn't change the fact that there are racist elements of the GOP and they are driving away people who want to be in the party and help build it, but feel like they're treated as second-class citizens.

I get they are reporting what Republican Politicians say.  I get that. Why should somebody else in the party apologize for a remark that somebody else said though? That politician that said the stupid remark should apologize. These are grown people after all not a parent that apologizes for what their kid did.

The former Republican Chair of Hispanic Outreach he must really be a Democrat. Why else join a party that may you only agree with 20% of the time? I get the average Hispanic wants to join the Democrats because he or she thinks the Dems are friendlier to  the Hispanic Community but a Chair for Republican Outreach quits the party? The guy must have discovered he was really a Democrat. Look at Charlie Christ, Artur Davis, or even Marty Martinez they all switched parties after discovering what party they really belong to.

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I get they are reporting what Republican Politicians say.  I get that. Why should somebody else in the party apologize for a remark that somebody else said though? That politician that said the stupid remark should apologize. These are grown people after all not a parent that apologizes for what their kid did.

Not apologize, but make it clear that their remarks do not represent the Republican Party as a whole and try to rein in the craziness.

The former Republican Chair of Hispanic Outreach he must really be a Democrat. Why else join a party that may you only agree with 20% of the time? I get the average Hispanic wants to join the Democrats because he or she thinks the Dems are friendlier to  the Hispanic Community but a Chair for Republican Outreach quits the party? The guy must have discovered he was really a Democrat. Look at Charlie Christ, Artur Davis, or even Marty Martinez they all switched parties after discovering what party they really belong to.

That doesn't make any sense. Did you even read the letter and interview? Probably not.

He says he likes Ronald Reagan, George H. W. Bush and John McCain. He says that business and entrepreneurial issues originally drew him to the GOP and that that racism drove him away. He says he likes the Democratic Party because of their inclusivity and standing up for minorities.

You keep saying that you understand but I don't think you do. Just read his own words and see why he left the Republicans. His views didn't change, he didn't suddenly realize he was in the wrong party, he's a moderate conservative who became fed up with party establishment not backing him up in reaching out to minorities and their tacit approval of the racism.

I just don't believe the Republican Party should make clear some person made a dumb remark and say its not reflective of the party. I stand by my opinion that these are grown people. The RNC or the RCCC should just withhold money from their campaigns and the party can make make their point that way. I don't think the RNC or RCCC should give any money to Steve King this cycle because of his outrageous comment about Hispanics a few months ago. I'm surprised he even shows his face on TV because he is  an embarrassment.

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I think we lose elections by writing off whole segments of society. If you adjusted the 2012 African American vote to Kerry's level of 88%, that flips Florida. We need to work on an ambitious urban voter agenda. I mean, inner city schools are hellholes. Let's turn them around. Talk about when businesses leave cities, they end up like Detroit and no one wants that for Downtown Cleveland. We just need to talk to them.

It's not nearly that simple. Black people aren't sheep who all vote Democratic just because that's what they've always done. The problem isn't that the Republican message isn't reaching black people; it's that it's odious. Republican policies actively harm black people (and other non-white people) in ways both unintentional and intentional, and that's a fact of which everyone is aware. Outreach won't be enough without massive behavioral modification that would be likely to lose a lot more white voters than it would gain non-white voters.

I am a little aware of the immigration issue  that some of the GOP politicians hurt themselves with their rhetoric but what other ways do the GOP harm intentionally or unintentiontally  hurt themselves with?

See with the black vote most of that is in the Northeast or the Deep South so that's hard to get like 20% of the black vote for the R's nationally because the Northeast is left leaning and the Deep South Whites and Blacks mainly bloc vote in their R and D camps respectively. I would even include the Upper Midwest in this conversation as well that Blacks are guaranteed to continually vote D in Presidential elections in that region as well because of their history from the "Great Migration" of several decades ago. The only thing going for the GOP with the black vote that I can see is that they are moving to suburban counties like Charles County, Maryland or Gwinnett County, GA and are moving out of those states cities like Baltimore or Atlanta.

I know Rudy Guliani got 20% of the Black Vote in his 1997 re-election run for Mayor of NYC of all places but that's a hard thing to do.

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You folks on the Right who wonder why non-whites don't vote Republican (or single women, or young people in general, or...) do realize how much these particular demographic groupings (that vote Democratic overwhelmingly) overlap with more marginalized social classes, yes?

The problem is the GOP's platform, not the "messaging" or some other nonsense. It's what the GOP stands for on economic and social policy.

In other words, I agree with Xahar.

Social Policy isn't a problem actually since Blacks are culturally conservative and 1st and 2nd generation Hispanics are as well. 3rd generation Hispanics are mostly the same as Non-Hispanic Whites on social issues though: libertarian. The economic policy I don't know I that's a problem but Republicans don't talk about poverty enough until the last few weeks it seems. I have been thinking about this and maybe Republicans need to talk about the issue in Presidential Elections(Bush W. did talk about it a little I think in 00 and 04) and how its a problem in minority communities since Minority Income is lower than it is for Non-Hispanic Whites. Republicans just talk about economic growth but some people don't have even have a job!

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You think that white voters voted a certain way because of the President's skin color but African Americans didn't? That's absurd. Hillary will have issues.

Of course some African Americans also vote on skin color, where did it contend that they don't? But it's not like the GOP was winning a quarter of the black vote before the Obama presidency. Will Hillary do just as well Obama? Probably not. But to be honest I don't think that'll sink her candidacy.

The Republicans did get into the teens in OH (16% I beleive) and that is probably how Bush held Hamilton country in 2004.

If the Republicans quit acting stupidly, they could probably get back to the teens and maybe to 20% in ten years or so.

The Ohio Republican Party used to have something of a black machine in Southwest Ohio (and by machine, I mean 20% ish, more in the wealthier suburbs than poor inner-city areas of course). It more or less died on the presidential level over the last two cycles with Obama running but there is some level of black support for local Republican candidates in the Cincinnati and Dayton areas. Mike Turner, the Republican congressman from Dayton, for example, typically gets ~10-15% in the black parts of Dayton rather than McCain's ~1-2%. IMO the biggest deciding factor for what portion of the black vote the GOP gets in local elections tends to be whether or not they bother to campaign in black areas. George Voinovich did similarly in Cleveland before he retired. When I lived in Cleveland, I would occasionally hear black people express the view that it doesn't matter what the Republicans say since they can't be trusted anyway--except George Voinovich.

On the national level, the GOP needs to build some degree of trust within the black community, even though it likely won't pay off for a decade or two. The way we do that is to actually send people to speak at events like the anniversary of the March on Washington instead of turning down invitations. And it they don't necessarily need to start firing off campaign lines; they just need to show up and be respectful. Secondly, we need to actively campaign in black neighborhoods and meet with black community leaders, not only when running, but after the election too. These sorts of things are important even if they don't translate into many votes right away because we need to build relationships across racial lines to ever hope to get rid of our party's toxic view among African Americans.

“Meeting them” won’t make it happen. The truth is that the GOP’s core economic and social policies directly hurt the well-being and interests of the black community.

Pushing voter suppression laws, racial scapegoating, “tough on crime”, the War on Drugs, telling cities to F-off financially, callous insensitivity to the needs of the economically disadvantaged, absorption of questionable characters post-Civil Rights Movement, etc. all negatively impact them, much of it by design.


Once again: the reason the GOP is struggling (not only with blacks, but the electorate as a whole) is not a “messaging problem”, it’s the whole freakin’ platform, candidates, and actions of the party over 40 years.

Well you have to admit the Democrats have beaten the Republican at messaging(just look at the war on women) the Dems creamed them there in 2012. I should add to before Obama had all of his problems(IRS, Benghazi, and Healthcare.Gov Website) he totally ran over Republicans in 2011-2012.

Candidates-Well the Republicans have had some oddball candidates the last few years so yeah that has contributed to their branding issues of late. Even Charlie Cook has said the GOP needs to work on their brand besides political scientists that are acclaimed as left-leaning say the same thing almost. Just look at the political panels at Akron University that C-Span aired a few months ago.

The GOP's policies hurt economic policies hurt the Black Community? Look at the last 50 years  since the "New Deal(Dem)l": I fail to see how "New Deal" policies have helped the Black Community. In fact "New Deal" policies have hurt the Black Community more than its helped.

The Republican Platform: Who reads party platforms(well I do yeah) but barely anybody has read the Republican or Dem platform.

Insensitivity to the Economically Disadvantaged-The GOP has not been good on that subject I don't know if they don't just don't care or if they are just ignorant on that issue.

Questionable Characters post Civil-Rights Movement-Have there been questionable characters in the Republican Party the last 50 years ? Sure but each party has questionable characters. By Design-You have to be kidding. Your making like its some sort of plot. That may be offensive to some Democrats on here but I just don't look at race/politics that way.

Cities to screw off-The Republican Party sucks in cities except for holding the mayors spots in NYC in the 90's and 00's(well Bloomberg ran as a Republican) and also holding the mayoral spot in the 90's in LA. The Republicans have not even worked on getting mayors elected in cities and don't even educate people in the city as to why the policies are better for people than the Dem policies are. I point to the parties ignorance or just don't care line again.

Tough on Crime and War on Drugs-I agree with the party mostly here but people in jail for a long period of time is crazy for drug offenses instead of a rehab program. "Stop and Frisk" is mostly racial profiling so I differ from  Republicans there.

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The days of the GOP being able to win 20% of the black vote are over thanks to the Obama presidency. The Republicans are too saturated with people who have no interest in even respecting black America and the aggressive dog whistling against Obama is going to be remembered for decades. There is no easy road out of this for Republicans.

This.

It also doesn't help that many Republicans seem to respect someone like George Zimmerman more than they respect black Americans.

I don't know if you could say they respect Zimmerman more than they respect Black Americans. In my opinion Zimmerman needs some sort of mental help.