Libertarians, 2008?

[Democratic Hawk]

I'm a no Libertarian - but I sometimes wish they could shake things up a bit in elections

Dave

[MasterJedi]

I miss the old days when Libertarians called themselves Anarchists

Now here's a great quality post.

[George W. Hobbes]

I think Jim Gray got elected because he has a bland, Anglo-Saxon name.  See the 1986 Illinois DNC primary lt. gubernatorial, attorney general race for similar results.

[Gabu]

becoming more watered down is a load of sh**t.  The thing we should do is keep these so-called "extreme" positions, but not campaign as if they were extreme.  Harry Browne had the 2nd most LP vote after Clark, when he ran in '96.  Thing is, he had opinions that may be as extreme as anyone else, but he doesn't come off sounding like it.  I really don't see why we're more extreme than Al Gore, or George Bush, or John Kerry, or Ross Perot, or Bob Dole or....

Browne got 0.50% of the vote.  Clarke, who got the highest percentage of any Libertarian candidate, received 1.03% of the vote.

...is this good, like, am I missing something?  Getting "the 2nd most LP vote" is not exactly an achievement when what you got was 0.50% of the vote.  Ross Perot got 18.91% of the vote, and he didn't even have a party behind him.

[NewFederalist]

Will there even BE Libertarians in 2008?

[MODU]

Will there even BE Libertarians in 2008?

Yeah.  Hopefully the less "Our way or no way" variety which has currently lead their party.

[adam]

Howard Stern, Drew Carey, Russo, Badnarik, Campagna, etc...

[Sarnstrom]

Marijuana Activist Steve Kubby announced his run for president as a Libertarian last sunday.   http://www.kubby.com/

Declared Libertarian Candidates:
Lance Brown
Jim Burns
Dave Hollist
Steve Kubby
Robert Milnes
George Phillies
Christine Smith
Doug Stanhope

Candidates Still Considering:
Michael Badnarik
Gary Nolan
Aaron Russo
Mary Ruwart

[TommyC1776]

How come if Ron Paul ran in 2008 he'd get 10-15% in the polls when he didn't do that well in 1988?  Someone said that he'd do 10-15% in the polls.

[adam]

I would vote for Steve Kubby is he were to secure the nomination.

[Nym90]

How come if Ron Paul ran in 2008 he'd get 10-15% in the polls when he didn't do that well in 1988?  Someone said that he'd do 10-15% in the polls.

Well he's a lot more well known now than he was in 1988, given that he's now a member of Congress. However, I highly doubt he could get 10 percent, much less 15 percent. He might be able to get 5 percent however.

[Southern Patriot]

But isn't Ron Paul now a Republican? or is he a RINO just to get elected?

[MaC]

I'm switching party registration if Stanhope gets nominated.

[MaC]

Hopefully if we do run, we could get a celebrity-say Clint Eastwood or someone with enough money and fame to help get the party's name recognized.  I also like MODU's idea of taking the 'overlapping' positions on each side and campaigning on that.  In order to get elected, I think we need people to be convinced we're the 'purple' middle ground.

[NewFederalist]

How come if Ron Paul ran in 2008 he'd get 10-15% in the polls when he didn't do that well in 1988?  Someone said that he'd do 10-15% in the polls.

Well he's a lot more well known now than he was in 1988, given that he's now a member of Congress. However, I highly doubt he could get 10 percent, much less 15 percent. He might be able to get 5 percent however.

Ron Paul was a lame duck Representative in 1988. That said, I don't disagree with your other comments.

[adam]

I'm switching party registration if Stanhope gets nominated.

That would be intresting, I have been saying for awhile that the Libertarian Party is a little too serious for their platform and in a round about way confuses people. You can't push a libertarian platform without a loose, charasmatic kind of character. Kubby/Stanhope 2008!

[MODU]

Marijuana Activist Steve Kubby announced his run for president as a Libertarian last sunday.   http://www.kubby.com/

Declared Libertarian Candidates:
Lance Brown
Jim Burns
Dave Hollist
Steve Kubby
Robert Milnes
George Phillies
Christine Smith
Doug Stanhope

Candidates Still Considering:
Michael Badnarik
Gary Nolan
Aaron Russo
Mary Ruwart

I'd have to sit down and read up on some of these people.  I don't recognize the names.

[Nym90]

How come if Ron Paul ran in 2008 he'd get 10-15% in the polls when he didn't do that well in 1988?  Someone said that he'd do 10-15% in the polls.

Well he's a lot more well known now than he was in 1988, given that he's now a member of Congress. However, I highly doubt he could get 10 percent, much less 15 percent. He might be able to get 5 percent however.

Ron Paul was a lame duck Representative in 1988. That said, I don't disagree with your other comments.

Oh ok, I didn't realize he was already in the House as of 1988. However, he is still much more well known today after having spent a lot more time in the House.

[MaC]

Guys, I really don't think Paul would run.  If he runs in 2008 he'll be 73.

[TommyC1776]

So, could Steve Kubby do well?  idk who he is.  i just see that alot of u posted him and said that u liked him.

[Dr. Cynic]

Here's a thought... What about Art Olivier?

[NewFederalist]

So, could Steve Kubby do well?  idk who he is.  i just see that alot of u posted him and said that u liked him.

Unless medical marijuana becomes the main issue of 2008, no. I don't see that issue even getting a mention by any serious candidates.

[adam]

Here's a thought... What about Art Olivier?

Art isn't getting younger, and at best he was just ballot filler behind Harry Browne. How about Ed Thompson (an actual elected offcial from Wisconsin) or George Phillies (a well spoken Libertarian who actually opposes illegal immigration).

[Know Your Rights!]

Here's a thought... What about Art Olivier?

Art isn't getting younger, and at best he was just ballot filler behind Harry Browne. How about Ed Thompson (an actual elected offcial from Wisconsin) or George Phillies (a well spoken Libertarian who actually opposes illegal immigration).

Olivier was mayor of Bellflower CA, a city much larger than Tomah WI of course, but Olivier's inevitably poor showing in comparison to Thompson's makes him a less desirable candidate.

[DownWithTheLeft]

Howard Stern, Drew Carey, Russo, Badnarik, Campagna, etc...

Howard Stern - more of a conservative, but certainly could be considered libertarians

Drew Carey- no, he is a straight up conservative