Opinion of Blue Labour

[H. Ross Peron]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Labour

FM overall although I am concerned about some of their protectionist and nativist tendencies.

[morgieb]

Very mixed.

[Snowstalker Mk. II]

An improvement on New Labour, which doesn't say much.

[Deus Naturae]

HM

[Hash]

Either a snowstalker.txt thing or a cheap attempt to imitate the late South African Labour Party.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Maurice Glasman isn't an uninfluential figure, but calling his pet project a 'tendency' is stretching matters a little. Anyway, he's very right about certain thing and deeply wrong about others.

[TNF]

Maurice Glasman isn't an uninfluential figure, but calling his pet project a 'tendency' is stretching matters a little. Anyway, he's very right about certain thing and deeply wrong about others.

[Cassius]

Fake. Such an ideology simply cannot emerge to the fore given the direction taken by the Labour Party over the last few decades (socially liberal, welfarist, basically the party of teachers, NHS workers, low-ranking civil servants and 'social workers').

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Yes, because I'm sure that you would have lots of lovely things to say about the Labour Party of Harold Wilson.

_{(not that your drooling idiocy has that much in common with reality anyway, but then that's usually the way with right-wingers of your openly insane stripe).}

[Cassius]

Yes, because I'm sure that you would have lots of lovely things to say about the Labour Party of Harold Wilson.

_{(not that your drooling idiocy has that much in common with reality anyway, but then that's usually the way with right-wingers of your openly insane stripe).}

I wasn't trying to be deliberately offensive (such things are easy to misinterpret in print). Not that I would have many 'nice' things to say about any of the Labour party's incarnations, but there you go. But it does seem to me, from my own limited perspective, that the Labour Party is largely a middle-class public sector party now, or at the very least it's leadership is, and thus is social liberalism and support for a fairly extensive welfare state is in keeping with said membership.

If you were offended by my post, my apologies. I used the term 'welfarist' largely off the top of my head because I could not think of a better word to describe an ideology that supports an extensive welfare state.

Though I thought that  'drooling' was rather harsh

[afleitch]

Yes, because I'm sure that you would have lots of lovely things to say about the Labour Party of Harold Wilson.

_{(not that your drooling idiocy has that much in common with reality anyway, but then that's usually the way with right-wingers of your openly insane stripe).}

I wasn't trying to be deliberately offensive (such things are easy to misinterpret in print). Not that I would have many 'nice' things to say about any of the Labour party's incarnations, but there you go. But it does seem to me, from my own limited perspective, that the Labour Party is largely a middle-class public sector party now, or at the very least it's leadership is, and thus is social liberalism and support for a fairly extensive welfare state is in keeping with said membership.

If you were offended by my post, my apologies. I used the term 'welfarist' largely off the top of my head because I could not think of a better word to describe an ideology that supports an extensive welfare state.

Though I thought that  'drooling' was rather harsh

As a Tory, I have no liking for Labour but to suggest that it is a middle-class public sector party is...interesting. It still disproportionately attracts workers, those who are economically inactive and ethnic minorities. Those who work in the public sector tend to have a higher rate of people living in socially rented and private rented accommodation than those in the private sector and many of those at the lowest clerking grades (The AA/AO band; making up nearly 40% of the total staff) earn not much above the minimum wage. To say that they back Labour because they work in the public sector is misplaced; they back Labour because they don't earn that much. The reason why Labour is now socially liberal is because the nation is. There was very little about LGBT rights in their 1997 manifesto, yet it defined their time in power. That is why civil partnerships, introduced less than a decade ago look decidedly quaint now and people who opposed them as being the bringer of moral doom and gloom now stumble over each other saying they supported them while trying to oppose marriage. There is no electoral merit in traditional social conservatism.

[Goldwater]

I prefer New Labour.

[ElectionsGuy]

Yuck

[Sol]

How socially conservative is it?

[Redalgo]

Horrible movement combining the worst of both worlds - corporatism, populism, and community-first emphasis being wed to traditionalism, ethnocentric biases, and us versus them attitudes toward just about anyone deemed to be outsiders. No thanks. D: 

[PJ]

Nativism tends to be a bad thing.

[Sec. of State Superique]

Horrible movement combining the worst of both worlds - corporatism, populism, and community-first emphasis being wed to traditionalism, ethnocentric biases, and us versus them attitudes toward just about anyone deemed to be outsiders. No thanks. D: 

Sums things up a lot.