SENATE BILL: Consistency in Drug Enforcement Bill (Redraft Rejected/Law'd)

[President Tyrion]

Why is LSD crossed out in 1b. but not in 1a.?

I just crossed out the full name, and I left the acronym. I just wanted to be consistent and refer to LSD and MDMA, as opposed to lysergic acid diethylamide and MDMA, which isn't parallel.

[H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY]

Lysergic acid diethylamide
Is quite a mouthful (or a fingerful)
To my poor hands after a day of things
But I suppose that I must make a speech
Regarding drugs and their legality
So in a few words or less: I support it.
My libertarian friends and I agree
At least on this issue (and several others
related to the NSA and such),
so I'll be voting Aye when this comes up.

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

Lysergic acid diethylamide
Is quite a mouthful (or a fingerful)
To my poor hands after a day of things
But I suppose that I must make a speech
Regarding drugs and their legality
So in a few words or less: I support it.
My libertarian friends and I agree
At least on this issue (and several others
related to the NSA and such),
so I'll be voting Aye when this comes up.

All the drugs mentioned in this bill are already legal throughout Atlasia.

[H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY]

Lysergic acid diethylamide
Is quite a mouthful (or a fingerful)
To my poor hands after a day of things
But I suppose that I must make a speech
Regarding drugs and their legality
So in a few words or less: I support it.
My libertarian friends and I agree
At least on this issue (and several others
Related to the NSA and such),
So I'll be voting Aye when this comes up.

All the drugs mentioned in this bill are already legal throughout Atlasia.

I had not previously known of this fact -
It had been my sincere impression that
Things like LSD and MDMA
Were ever only decriminalized,
But now I see my error is corrected.
However, I suppose I'd still vote Aye,
As I believe consistency is good.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Debate has been resumed.

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Status: Senators have 24 hours to object.

[TNF]

I object. I am extremely uncomfortable with Section 3.

I'm offering an amendment of my own:

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[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

The minimum sentences are back. I like how Tyrion is dancing around the amendment. Dance, my boy!

I think a fine for selling to a minor is fine, but putting them in jail?

[President Tyrion]

The minimum sentences are back. I like how Tyrion is dancing around the amendment. Dance, my boy!

I think a fine for selling to a minor is fine, but putting them in jail?

Recommended sentencing structures are important. Judges still have and can use discretion, but I think it's important to at least provide a framework of where we think those penalties should be.

And, I do love dancing

Well, I'm setting selling to a minor to be a congruent offense to selling alcohol or tobacco to a minor. I'm pretty sure you only face jail time in pretty extreme circumstances, otherwise it's just a fine and perhaps loss of license, both of which are certainly justified.

TNF, I'm mostly fine with your amendment, but I'm not comfortable with removing "jail time". If we have offenses that could lead to going to jail for selling alcohol and tobacco, we should punish offenders similarly for any other drug.

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

Is there jail time under our current drug laws somewhere?

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

Is there jail time under our current drug laws somewhere?

Yeah, that's my question. I thought the whole point of our laws was to avoid needlessly jailing people over drugs. This seems to go back on that slightly. I get that we want to deter people from selling to underage, but I feel like a hefty fine and mark on your criminal record would suffice.

[President Tyrion]

Is there jail time under our current drug laws somewhere?

Well, here's a source on the current pre-Nym laws:

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Other than being able to charge the minor, I think it should be the same in Atlasia, unless it was changed. So the jail time isn't severe, and very often not mandated, but judges do have the discretion in extreme cases.

I do think jail time is appropriate for selling drugs to "very" underaged minors without regard to the law. People of that age cannot make informed decisions about what they choose to ingest; people at the point-of-sale should not be party to that sort of thing.

I could add a clause recommending that judges only use jail time for "severe" offenses?

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

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Sponsor Feedback: Origination
Status: Objection filed by Senator TNF, A vote is now open on the above amendment, Senators please vote Aye, Nay or Abstain

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

Nay

[H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY]

Aye.

If jail time's not supported, then we can
Change up the law for all the drugs upon
Our passing of this bill: pot, alcohol,
The works (a bill which I would most support).

[Goldwater]

AYE

[President Tyrion]

Aye

[bore]

Aye

[TNF]

Nay

[Talleyrand]

NAY

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

AYE

[Lumine]

Aye.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Vote on Amendemnt 60:24 by Tyrion:

Aye (6): Alfred F. Jones, bore, Goldwater, Lumine, NC Yankee, and TyriontheImperialist
Nay (3): shua, Talleyrand and TNF
Abstain (0):

Didn't Vote (1): DC al Fine

The amendment has bee nadopted.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

So what now?

[TNF]

So what now?

My amendment?

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Tyrion, did you ever judge it as friendly or hostile? I cannot find a certain response either way.