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« on: January 19, 2014, 06:23:34 PM »

Both of these groups have Hillary derangement syndrome that borders on psychotic, but who is worse? You decide!
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« Reply #1 on: January 19, 2014, 06:33:00 PM »

Both of these groups have Hillary derangement syndrome that borders on psychotic, but who is worse? You decide!

>implying that opposing an awful sociopath for President is psychotic
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« Reply #2 on: January 19, 2014, 06:34:01 PM »

Both of these groups have Hillary derangement syndrome that borders on psychotic, but who is worse? You decide!

>implying that opposing an awful sociopath for President is psychotic
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« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2014, 06:34:35 PM »

Both of these groups have Hillary derangement syndrome that borders on psychotic, but who is worse? You decide!

>implying that opposing an awful sociopath for President is psychotic
Haha. Burn.

Also the Hillary hate among lefties here isn't just restricted to True Leftists.
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« Reply #4 on: January 19, 2014, 06:41:05 PM »

The true leftists, but she would obviously be better then any true leftist.
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« Reply #5 on: January 19, 2014, 06:41:14 PM »

Both of these groups have Hillary derangement syndrome that borders on psychotic, but who is worse? You decide!

>implying that opposing an awful sociopath for President is psychotic

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« Reply #6 on: January 19, 2014, 06:57:36 PM »

The Facebook conservatives who insist on typing:

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Those people are crazy.
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« Reply #7 on: January 19, 2014, 07:00:38 PM »

The Facebook conservatives who insist on typing:

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Those people are crazy.

Maybe they think for every 1000 Benghazis Hillary goes down 1% in the polls.
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« Reply #8 on: January 19, 2014, 07:05:34 PM »

Clinton's involvement in voter fraud, corruption and dirty tricks disqualify her for the Presidency far more than Benghazi ever could.
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« Reply #9 on: January 19, 2014, 07:06:37 PM »

Clinton's involvement in voter fraud, corruption and dirty tricks disqualify her for the Presidency far more than Benghazi ever could.
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« Reply #10 on: January 19, 2014, 07:14:25 PM »

Clinton's involvement in voter fraud, corruption and dirty tricks disqualify her for the Presidency far more than Benghazi ever could.

Please elaborate (preferably by citing credible sources) on all three of those things.

Also, out of curiosity, if it ends up being Hillary vs. Cruz, would you vote for Cruz or the 0.2% Green candidate?
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« Reply #11 on: January 19, 2014, 07:17:08 PM »

Clinton's involvement in voter fraud, corruption and dirty tricks disqualify her for the Presidency far more than Benghazi ever could.

Please elaborate (preferably by citing credible sources) on all three of those things.

Also, out of curiosity, if it ends up being Hillary vs. Cruz, would you vote for Cruz or the 0.2% Green candidate?

0.2% Green candidate or the Libertarian.

Any day of the week.
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« Reply #12 on: January 19, 2014, 07:18:36 PM »

Clinton's involvement in voter fraud, corruption and dirty tricks disqualify her for the Presidency far more than Benghazi ever could.

Please elaborate (preferably by citing credible sources) on all three of those things.

Also, out of curiosity, if it ends up being Hillary vs. Cruz, would you vote for Cruz or the 0.2% Green candidate?
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« Reply #13 on: January 19, 2014, 07:20:55 PM »

Clinton's involvement in voter fraud, corruption and dirty tricks disqualify her for the Presidency far more than Benghazi ever could.

Please elaborate (preferably by citing credible sources) on all three of those things.

Also, out of curiosity, if it ends up being Hillary vs. Cruz, would you vote for Cruz or the 0.2% Green candidate?

0.2% Green candidate or the Libertarian.

Any day of the week.

So you disqualify Hillary based off insufficient ideological purity, but would vote LIBERTARIAN instead? This is why True Leftists mystify me.
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« Reply #14 on: January 19, 2014, 07:22:39 PM »

Both of these groups have Hillary derangement syndrome that borders on psychotic, but who is worse? You decide!

>implying that opposing an awful sociopath for President is psychotic



I like glitter too but that is too much kitsch. Perhaps you make it purple and denser in typeface - or is that too obviously gay?
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« Reply #15 on: January 19, 2014, 09:26:16 PM »

Clinton's involvement in voter fraud, corruption and dirty tricks disqualify her for the Presidency far more than Benghazi ever could.

Please elaborate (preferably by citing credible sources) on all three of those things.

Also, out of curiosity, if it ends up being Hillary vs. Cruz, would you vote for Cruz or the 0.2% Green candidate?

0.2% Green candidate or the Libertarian.

Any day of the week.

So you disqualify Hillary based off insufficient ideological purity, but would vote LIBERTARIAN instead? This is why True Leftists mystify me.
Ideological purity isn't the only reason why leftists don't want Hillary Clinton. A lot more of complaints about her have to do with her personality.
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« Reply #16 on: January 19, 2014, 10:17:59 PM »

True leftists, definitely.
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« Reply #17 on: January 19, 2014, 10:43:24 PM »

Right-wingers.
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« Reply #18 on: January 20, 2014, 04:38:55 AM »
« Edited: January 20, 2014, 04:42:11 AM by Hillary/Rendell 2016 »

Clinton's involvement in voter fraud, corruption and dirty tricks disqualify her for the Presidency far more than Benghazi ever could.

Please elaborate (preferably by citing credible sources) on all three of those things.

Also, out of curiosity, if it ends up being Hillary vs. Cruz, would you vote for Cruz or the 0.2% Green candidate?

0.2% Green candidate or the Libertarian.

Any day of the week.

So you disqualify Hillary based off insufficient ideological purity, but would vote LIBERTARIAN instead? This is why True Leftists mystify me.
Ideological purity isn't the only reason why leftists don't want Hillary Clinton. A lot more of complaints about her have to do with her personality.

LOL yeah because that matters more than knowing how to get the job done, right? We're not voting for a high school prom queen here, people, where popularity and likability and attractiveness and other materialistic, unimportant characteristics of the sort matter more than intelligence, experience, knowledge, skill, and tact that it takes to be President (although sadly nowadays that's what our elections are coming to). I don't understand why so many low-information/American Idol voters are more concerned about voting for someone who could sit down and have a beer with them as they are about a candidate whose views they agree with and has an impressive resume and knows how to govern. Substance is more important to me than style, which is why I voted for Hillary over Obama in 2008.

To answer the poster's question on here, though, I think it's pretty much equally shared. The hatred for Hillary sounds all the same from the left as it does on the right; they just choose different aspects of her to hate more, although I would argue that now Republicans don't necessarily hate her as much as they do Obama insomuch as they are just terrified of her getting the nomination because they know she will win and unlike Obama she will not bend over for them and will instead stand up to them. The leftist kooks tend to hate her because she doesn't vilify businesses and corporations as they do. I can't count how many times I've heard her called a corporatist, and I didn't even know what that meant until I looked it up.

So I guess I would say true leftists right now since the primary comes before the general and they want to get an Elizabeth Warren/Dennis Kucinich/Brian Schweitzer type in there. The amount of leftists who hate her so much that they'd vote Green or another third party is too small when compared to the leftists who will hold their noses and pull the lever for when when they see her on the same ballot with Chris Christie or especially a Ted Cruz/Rand Paul.
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« Reply #19 on: January 20, 2014, 08:35:53 AM »

We're not voting for a high school prom queen here, people, where popularity and likability and attractiveness and other materialistic, unimportant characteristics of the sort matter more than intelligence, experience, knowledge, skill, and tact that it takes to be President (although sadly nowadays that's what our elections are coming to). I don't understand why so many low-information/American Idol voters are more concerned about voting for someone who could sit down and have a beer with them as they are about a candidate whose views they agree with and has an impressive resume and knows how to govern. Substance is more important to me than style, which is why I voted for Hillary over Obama in 2008.

Republicans don't necessarily hate her as much as they do Obama insomuch as they are just terrified of her getting the nomination because they know she will win

Hillary, since I've always liked her and for electability reasons.

I pretty much agree with this.
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« Reply #20 on: January 20, 2014, 10:06:08 AM »

Everyone.  Why does everyone forget how quickly she was abandoned for Baracka? 
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« Reply #21 on: January 20, 2014, 12:46:58 PM »

http://whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/BODIES.html
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« Reply #22 on: January 20, 2014, 01:04:50 PM »

Everyone.  Why does everyone forget how quickly she was abandoned for Baracka? 

Last time i checked, half the party supported Hillary and half supported Obama in 2008. I wouldn't really call that abandonment.


Conspiracy theories generally detract from the real issues. If you dislike her voting record in the senate or her views on the issues that's one thing but posting a link claiming her and her husband used their influence to kill multiple people is nonsense and makes your opinion hard to take seriously.
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« Reply #23 on: January 20, 2014, 01:18:55 PM »


LOL, did you find that on Breitbart?
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« Reply #24 on: January 20, 2014, 02:08:29 PM »
« Edited: January 20, 2014, 02:21:18 PM by Redalgo »

I'm going with option one here. The socialist crowd is better represented on the Atlas than in the U.S. general population, where Clinton is generally better liked. Gallup described her a month ago as the most admired woman in America, a Rasmussen poll found 70% of Democrats would vote for Clinton if the primaries were held last November, and an older Zogby poll has her netting 46% of the popular vote in a hypothetical, victorious runoff against Rubio.

Personally, I would prefer not to vote for her but also do not hate her. The nature of her campaign against Barack Obama years back was disturbingly nasty and dishourable. She sides much more strongly with Israel than Palestine, wanted to boycott the Olympics in the PRC, has an aggressive stance towards Russia in wanting to spread NATO to its borders, and seems to snub the idea of meeting with leaders from Cuba, Iran, and North Korea. In the past she has called for a larger armed forces, expressed support for torture being used on detainees under some circumstances, used nativist rhetoric on the subject of outsourcing, helped sponsor a bill to make it a crime to burn the American flag, she opposes drug legalization, supports censorship in the media to shelter children from controversial content, favours the use of stimulus spending during recessions, and disagrees with me on matters of Social Security and taxation. That is aside from our fundamental rifts in opinion over capitalism and what the welfare regime should look like.

If there were hypothetically no minor party candidates with relatively agreeable plans I would cast a vote in support her on Election Day, sure, but that is almost certainly not going to happen. On the other hand, we have enough common ground on other issues that if I were a strategic voter I would have no regrets aligning with her.
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