SENATE BILL: Pacific Deconstruction Resolution (Passed)
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« Reply #50 on: January 31, 2014, 03:29:10 AM »

Tyrion, what are your plans at this point?
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« Reply #51 on: January 31, 2014, 03:20:52 PM »

I think we can give it a day, and move forward with the bill as written.
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« Reply #52 on: February 01, 2014, 07:44:43 PM »

You guys can pass the original bill if you wish, and I would not mind if you did, but all we require is permission to form a merger. The Constitution forbids an "alliance" without Senate permission, but "alliance" would be open to interpretation because the Constitution does not define it. Look, a permission to form a merger or alliance at least would be an excellent trade-off to having the stimulus embraced on my end. So! We could approve the stimulus and then work for a merger. Everybody happy? Yes, I think so. Smiley It would be good to proceed that way, I think.

However, if you demand that the stimulus be accepted but then deny a merger / alliance request, it looks like you have a one-way street as opposed to a two-way street. You know? Smiley
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« Reply #53 on: February 01, 2014, 10:37:44 PM »

You guys can pass the original bill if you wish, and I would not mind if you did, but all we require is permission to form a merger. The Constitution forbids an "alliance" without Senate permission, but "alliance" would be open to interpretation because the Constitution does not define it. Look, a permission to form a merger or alliance at least would be an excellent trade-off to having the stimulus embraced on my end. So! We could approve the stimulus and then work for a merger. Everybody happy? Yes, I think so. Smiley It would be good to proceed that way, I think.

However, if you demand that the stimulus be accepted but then deny a merger / alliance request, it looks like you have a one-way street as opposed to a two-way street. You know? Smiley

We're pretty much doing exactly that. The amended version of the bill satisfies the vagaries of the constitution. Don't worry; I got your back. Wink
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« Reply #54 on: February 02, 2014, 10:53:03 AM »

Well the day is over.

A final vote is now open on the underlying legislation, Senators please vote Aye, Nay or Abstain.
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« Reply #55 on: February 02, 2014, 11:05:08 AM »

AYE
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« Reply #56 on: February 02, 2014, 11:50:36 AM »

Aye
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« Reply #57 on: February 02, 2014, 12:45:54 PM »

Aye

I have some concerns about this, but they are outweighed by the fact that this is probably the closest we'll ever get to consolidation.  That said, replacing every region with a set of completely new, equally sliced-and-diced regions that in no way resemble any of the current ones would be the best approach (sadly, I don't see that happening Sad ).
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« Reply #58 on: February 02, 2014, 01:13:36 PM »

AYE
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« Reply #59 on: February 02, 2014, 03:56:39 PM »

Aye

I enjoy how Labor has turned things on its head and is now very consistently voting early and all the time.
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« Reply #60 on: February 02, 2014, 04:54:29 PM »

Nay
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« Reply #61 on: February 02, 2014, 05:28:07 PM »

NAY
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« Reply #62 on: February 02, 2014, 05:55:14 PM »

Aye for similar reasons to Senator X.
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« Reply #63 on: February 03, 2014, 04:30:47 PM »

Nay

I believe the proper way to go about this is for the regions to enter a preliminary agreement which is then approved by the Senate, rather than unconditional pre-approval.  Otherwise we should consider whether the constitutional clause on this issue has any point.
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« Reply #64 on: February 03, 2014, 06:07:36 PM »

This bill has enough votes to pass, Senators have 24 hours to change their votes.


Since it won't affect the outcome, I am going to vote Nay to express concerns similar to those of shua's. Setting aside the pre-agreement/post-agreement but pre-implementation issue, I do think it is a mistake to not have placed some conditions on this.

So NAY
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« Reply #65 on: February 04, 2014, 07:45:09 PM »

Vote on Final Passage of the Pacific Deconstruction Amendment:

Aye (6): bore, DC Al Fine, Mr. X, Talleyrand, TNF And TyriontheImperialist
Nay (4): Goldwater, NC Yankee, shua and Tmthforu94
Abstain (0):

Didn't Vote (0):

With six votes in the affiramtive nad time having expired, the Resolution has passed the SEnate.
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« Reply #66 on: February 04, 2014, 07:47:10 PM »

It does not appear that the President's signature is required for this. It just says "consent of the Senate".
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« Reply #67 on: February 04, 2014, 08:30:00 PM »

It does not appear that the President's signature is required for this. It just says "consent of the Senate".

Yeah, Duke isn't required for this.
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