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« on: January 21, 2014, 11:23:03 AM »

I oppose any and all efforts to end the tax on for-profit universities, which was adopted, if I do recall correctly, as an alternative to total abolition of those institutions, something that I'd be squarely in favor of. shua's support for giving tax relief to predatory institutions which go after the young and working class is disgusting, and I ask the Senate not to indulge him on this seemingly harmless bill.

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« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2014, 12:51:26 PM »

Hostile, of course.

That is an extremely blunt and counterproductive way of going about protecting students.

I don't necessarily disagree if you mean we should just ban for-private universities.
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« Reply #2 on: January 22, 2014, 11:36:02 AM »


Because these for-profits are charging the same rates as other non-profit private universities which do not pay the tax, I think we can assume the tax is not effecting the students too badly, at least not any worse than attending the school in the first place is effecting them.


again, I do not know where you could be getting tuition rate information for colleges that pay a 50% tax on tuition, since since a scenario does not exist IRL.
I don't assume that a 50% tax translates into a 50% tuition increase.  I do think it is reasonable to assume that it most likely means some substantial increase. 

Which is just going to mean fewer people go to the for-profit colleges in favor of non-predatory community colleges and public universities. I fail to see the problem here.
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« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2014, 11:27:05 AM »

Aye
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« Reply #4 on: January 24, 2014, 11:30:46 AM »

I also object.
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« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2014, 10:00:31 AM »

NAY
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« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2014, 12:00:10 PM »

AYE

I am curious  to know why Senators Talleyrand and TNF prefer to remain with the original version of my bill rather than this amendment.

I prefer not to amend the original bill at all.
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« Reply #7 on: February 03, 2014, 10:56:27 AM »

I object.
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« Reply #8 on: February 04, 2014, 10:39:11 AM »


You completely ignore the discussion on this bill for a week and then you object for no discernible reason.  Is it just that you want to slow this bill down?  Have you realized that your own bills are so awful you want to keep this on the floor for as long as possible so we don't get to any more of them?

I've kept up with the discussion, I just haven't posted in this thread because I have little to add to it. There's literally no need for this legislation, as the previous bill is just fine. When you figure that out and stop shilling for for-profit colleges, then maybe you can advise me on how "awful" my legislation (which passes more often than not, I should add) is.
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« Reply #9 on: February 05, 2014, 10:15:22 AM »

Nay
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« Reply #10 on: February 12, 2014, 04:25:10 PM »

NAY
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« Reply #11 on: February 16, 2014, 05:56:52 PM »


my body is ready
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« Reply #12 on: February 27, 2014, 08:32:28 AM »

Abstain

I prefer not changing the existing law.
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« Reply #13 on: March 04, 2014, 10:43:19 AM »

I voted Abstain, FTR, Yankee. You have me listed there as 'Aye' and 'Abstain'
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