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« on: January 21, 2014, 12:14:45 PM »
« edited: January 21, 2014, 01:13:40 PM by Asherzeleg »

So I just discovered Dave's redistricting app and I was playing around with it, trying to make the most conservative district in Alabama. I don't know how to post maps here, but the district is mostly Birmingham exurbs and white rural areas.
82.7% McCain
16.3% Obama
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89.2% White
5.5% Black

The rest of the state ends up being 56.7% McCain, 42.6% Obama, and 29.5% black. Would any states flip after just 1 ultra-republican district drawn? (maybe Georgia, South Carolina, Missouri in 2008, Arizona?) I'm assuming Texas would have the most conservative district possible, but how intensely republican can a district be in each state?
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« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2014, 12:18:11 PM »

DRA has a save to jpg function to get an image of your map. A screen capture works, too. Once you have 20 posts you can use the img feature to embed maps. The Atlas gallery provides storage for your maps if you don't have another picture site that you use.
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« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2014, 12:24:00 PM »

Thanks! Maybe I'll get to 20 posts on this thread and then I can post the map.
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« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2014, 12:43:05 PM »

Arizona! This was hastily done so it's probably possible to get under 30% Obama, but here it is.
It's Mohave county with a strip through the center going through Yavapai, northern Maricopa, Gila, a bit of Coconino, and Navajo
68.0% McCain
30.8% Obama
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80.7% White
1.3% Black
13.2% Hispanic
1.3% Native

The rest of the state did not flip to Obama but is quite close, at 51.3% McCain and 47.3% Obama. It is 55.0% White, 4.0% Black, 31.7% Hispanic, and 4.4% Native
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« Reply #4 on: January 21, 2014, 12:55:16 PM »
« Edited: January 21, 2014, 01:03:39 PM by Sol »

I did GA. This district is 21.5% Obama, 77.6% McCain. It's probably possible to pubbie it up slightly, although going above 80% McCain is probably impossible.



Georgia almost flips to Obama- It's at 49.0% Obama to 50.3% McCain.  if my intuitions are correct and a more Republican district is possible, it probably flips.

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« Reply #5 on: January 21, 2014, 01:31:43 PM »

Hmmm. Interesting. I guess because Georgia has so many districts even an epic one like yours isn't enough to flip it. Two districts would do the trick easily, I'm sure.
Arkansas
Western Border, kinda snakes out every which way
70.0% McCain
27.4% Obama
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84.8% White
2.5% Black
7.3% Hispanic (wow)

The rest of the state is 55.2% McCain, 42.5% Obama. 71.1% White, 19.6% Black, 6.1% Hispanic
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« Reply #6 on: January 21, 2014, 01:47:30 PM »

83-15 McCain. He won the rest of the state 53-45.

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« Reply #7 on: January 21, 2014, 02:39:25 PM »

Wisconsin
Based in Milwaukee suburbs, stretches north taking lots of Fond du Lac and Green Lake counties, doesn't include the center of the city of Waukesha

63.1% McCain
35.7% Obama
(Barrett was probably well under 30% here in 2010 and the recall)
93.7% White

Rest of State- 59.5% Obama, 39.0% McCain, 81.8% White, 6.9% Black, 6.4% Hispanic
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« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2014, 04:04:03 PM »

Connecticut
Essentially strings together every McCain precinct in Western CT while staying contiguous. 88.2% White. Massive R swing in 2012.
McCain- 49.6%
Obama- 49.2%

The rest of the state is 64.0% Obama, 34.8% McCain. 67% white, 11.2% black, 15.5% Hispanic

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« Reply #9 on: January 21, 2014, 05:09:48 PM »

In IL you can get a full CD with 57.0% McCain using contiguous whole counties and no islands.
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« Reply #10 on: January 21, 2014, 05:32:20 PM »

Colorado
Eastern Colorado, much of Douglas County, Northern Colorado Springs
64.6% McCain
33.9% Obama

Rest of Colorado is 22% Hispanic
57.1% Obama
41.3% McCain
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« Reply #11 on: January 21, 2014, 06:45:09 PM »

Massachusetts- The 6th Congressional District

I can't find any demographic information for the district, but this is certainly the most conservative district in MA.
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« Reply #12 on: January 21, 2014, 07:02:45 PM »


Yes, MA-6 is the most conservative current district in Massachusetts, but certainly not the most conservative possible district.
This is, possibly.
Begins in Plymouth county, doesn't touch coast, snakes over to southern border all the way to Springfield, stretches up around Worcester to around Lowell, and doesn't touch northern border
49.2% McCain
48.9% Obama

The state barely changes, at 63.9% Obama, 34.3% McCain
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« Reply #13 on: January 21, 2014, 07:19:48 PM »

Yay! I can post the maps now! Here's Alabama

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« Reply #14 on: January 21, 2014, 07:40:15 PM »

Someone once drew a 67% McCain district entirely within New York City, which I'm pretty sure beats anything in Upstate or the Island. South Shore SI + the Orthodox Jewish parts of Southern Brooklyn is rather intensely Republican.  (For Prez, that is.  The Orthodox precincts will vote for local Dems because it's the "party of government" here.)
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« Reply #15 on: January 21, 2014, 09:28:16 PM »



66-32 McCain
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« Reply #16 on: January 22, 2014, 02:01:19 AM »



77-23 McCain
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« Reply #17 on: January 22, 2014, 04:56:28 AM »

Massachusetts- The 6th Congressional District

I can't find any demographic information for the district, but this is certainly the most conservative district in MA.

Yes, but not by much. 9th is only slightly less. And, IMHO, 9th is more socially conservative, while 6th - more fiscally conservative...
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« Reply #18 on: January 22, 2014, 02:41:45 PM »

I think one of the rules you guys should follow is to not trap areas that aren't the size of a district when drawing our districts. For example, in that Florida map, there are several non-contiguous white areas that aren't district sized.
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« Reply #19 on: January 22, 2014, 05:00:45 PM »

I did GA. This district is 21.5% Obama, 77.6% McCain. It's probably possible to pubbie it up slightly, although going above 80% McCain is probably impossible.

Georgia almost flips to Obama- It's at 49.0% Obama to 50.3% McCain.  if my intuitions are correct and a more Republican district is possible, it probably flips.

It's impossible to flip the state by isolating one CD, unfortunately. I did manage to get a 79% McCain district (below) in the same general area as yours.

What is possible is getting a McCain 80%+ district; I pulled out an epic gerrymander (second map; there's a "four corners" in Baldwin/Wilkinson that allows the seemingly isolated eastern section of the state to cross over into the remainder of GA):

CD:

McCain - 80.4%
White - 88.9%

Remainder of State:

McCain - 50.0%
Obama - 49.3%



I think one of the rules you guys should follow is to not trap areas that aren't the size of a district when drawing our districts. For example, in that Florida map, there are several non-contiguous white areas that aren't district sized.

But they do it to us! Tongue
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« Reply #20 on: January 22, 2014, 05:32:03 PM »

Massachusetts- The 6th Congressional District

I can't find any demographic information for the district, but this is certainly the most conservative district in MA.

Yes, but not by much. 9th is only slightly less. And, IMHO, 9th is more socially conservative, while 6th - more fiscally conservative...

You are 100% correct.
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« Reply #21 on: January 22, 2014, 06:29:16 PM »



83-15 McCain
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« Reply #22 on: January 22, 2014, 07:11:24 PM »



74-25 McCain, rest of state 55-44
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« Reply #23 on: January 22, 2014, 07:42:54 PM »

Missouri

67.7% McCain, 30.9% Obama
The rest of the state flips easily, at 51.7% Obama and 47.0% McCain.
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« Reply #24 on: January 22, 2014, 08:08:13 PM »

Welcome to the forum, Asher. You may also be interested in a thread I made about white liberal districts in each state.
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