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jfern
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« on: March 19, 2005, 06:20:51 AM »

No.

The Gore and Bush campaigns should have gotten together and agreed to a state-wide recount, and agreed in advance on all the standards for vote counting.  It should have had bipartisan supervision, and each campaign should have agreed in advance to abide by the results without legal challenges.

Gore was being the typical Democrat, acting like a little girl.  It is the party of women, after all, and Gore's behavior reflected that, whatever he may actually have between his legs.  He refused to agree to accept any results in advance that he didn't like, and then he asked for recounts only in the 4 most heavily Democratic counties.  And to top it all off, he put the son of a well-known vote-stealer as the public spokesman for his recount effort.  When he didn't get the results he wanted, he ran to the courts.

And all the garbage about blacks not being allowed to vote was just that - self-serving garbage being peddled by revolting rejects like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton.  Gore's alignment with them is to his eternal discredit.  As far as the "conspiratorial" Palm Beach butterfly ballot goes, it was designed by a partisan Democrat.  Need I say more?

The whole Florida mess was avoidable, but it would have required Gore to act like a man.  I guess that was asking too much.  Better to whine and cry and act like a little girl.

What amazed me is that I never heard of a Republican coming forward stating that his/her vote wasn't counted, or that he/she was confused into voting incorrectly.  How could that be?  Could the Republicans have it rigged so well that all mistakes and confusion favored them?  I guess the Republicans have such a strong presence in inner-city black areas that they were able to prevent blacks from voting there in large numbers.  Or maybe only Democrats aren't smart enough to figure out how to mark a ballot correctly?  I wish I had the answer.

Maybe it's just that the Republican mentality is less victim-oriented.  I remember watching all these annoying Democrats with grating New York accents complain about what a huge conspiracy it was that they voted wrong in Palm Beach County.  How did they know they voted wrong, when they weren't able to see their ballot again after supposedly checking it and turning it in?  They figured out after the fact, without seeing the ballot, that they had been victimized by a ballot that they weren't smart enough to figure out.  That's a big difference right there between a Democrat and a Republican.  A Republican would have enough pride not to announce his utter stupidity on national TV, and try to blame it on a big conspiracy, which of course it turns out was "engineered" by the Democrats, since they engineered the Palm Beach County ballot.  A Republican who knew he had failed to mark his ballot correctly would keep his mouth shut, slink home, and keep his sorrow over the results private.  He wouldn't announce his mistake on national TV.

What a load of sexism and racism crap.
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jfern
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« Reply #1 on: July 14, 2005, 05:03:24 AM »

Florida is in two time zones.

When most of the networks called Florida for Gore early in the evening, Florida voters in the panhandle were still casting ballots, and were voting heavily for Bush.

This early call of Florida for Gore likely cost Bush thousands ov votes in the panhandle as many of these people gave up waiting in line and left because they were led to believe the race in Florida was already over.

Who knows, as well, how many thousands, or hundreds of thousands of votes this early call of Florida for Gore cost Bush in the western part of the country, because people knew Bush needed Florida to win.  Likely, thousands of Bush voters gave up waiting in line and went home as well.

After the final count did not go Gore's way, he went trolling for votes in only favorable Democratic counties.

Every recount confirmed Bush's win.  As has been pointed out, even counts taken by the press confirmed Bush's win.

In the final analysis, the votes simply were not there for Gore to win Florida.

Hundreds of thousands of votes? What planet are you on? Florida was called 10 minutes before voting stopped in the least populated part of the state. That may have cost Gore some votes to. The net effect was probably only a couple of dozen votes lost to Bush. The butterfly ballot, scrub list, illegal absentee ballots, and numerous other things by themselves were greater than the the resuliting difference between Bush and Gore. This wasn't.
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