Latinos outnumber whites for the first time this year in California

[eric82oslo]

The Pew Research Center put up an article the other day citing the 2014/15 California budget released by the Governor that shows that by June/July this year, Latinos will outnumber whites by 0.2% in California. That means that Latinos will be 39% strong compared to 38.8% for the white population. Asians are also growing, to a record high 13%. The only two groups that are declining in percentages are whites and blacks, which has been the trend all along since 1990 and probably since even before that. Also, this way, California is to become only the third state to not have a white plurality or majority. Hawaii has (as of 2012) an Asian or Pacific Islander plurality that exceeds the white population by 23.3 percentage points, while New Mexico's latino population outnumbers that of white by 7.2 percentage point. Texas will probably get a latino plurality as well sometime around 2018 (although it greatly depends on the unstable birth rates).

Whole Pew article: http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/01/24/in-2014-latinos-will-surpass-whites-as-largest-racialethnic-group-in-california/

[Indy Texas]

Relevant.

[Snowstalker Mk. II]

>implying Latinos are a race

[eric82oslo]

>implying Latinos are a race

Well there are no races. Races are human made conceptions.

In some countries, like in Norway, we don't talk about races at all, only ethnic groups.

[eric82oslo]

Relevant.

"That same survey showed that only 35 percent of native-born Americans support affirmative action, compared to 58 percent of immigrants, including -- amazingly -- 64 percent of Asians (suggesting they may not be as smart as everyone thinks)."

lol Egoism is clearly the ideology of Ann Coulter I see.

"(Approximately 5 million times a day, MSNBC expresses bewilderment that any Republicans oppose amnesty when it's supported by the Chamber of Commerce. Wow! So even people who profit by flooding the country with cheap labor are in favor of flooding the country with cheap labor!)"

5 million times, that must be a few hundred times a second.

[Clarko95 📚💰📈]

>implying Latinos are a race

Well there are no races. Races are human made conceptions.

In some countries, like in Norway, we don't talk about races at all, only ethnic groups.

In the US, Hispanic/Latino is an ethnicity that can encompass whites, blacks, native inhabitants, and mixed people from any country to our south. 

Even a lot of Americans are confused by the term.

[Oldiesfreak1854]

Latino is an ethnicity, not a race.  There are a LOT of Latinos who are also white, just as there are many Jews who are white.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Relevant.

It reminds of me of back in July when Bill Richardson said that there has to be a political element when the discussion implied such promotes amnesty being passed and then on one of the other Sunday shows the same morning another proponent of such an immigration bill says the exact opposite that political considerations need to be removed from debate, when they just so happen to not be convienent.

The simple bottom line, from the political perspective, is that immigration reform will not swing hispanics to the GOP. It is at best a door, a costly door for the GOP to enter by passing a media designed test to prove they are not racist. Once the test is passed, assuming of course the goal posts aren't moved as they invariably always are, they are merely in the door and are leagues away from actually winning larger numbers of Hispanics.  And we know how well the GOP is at selling what it is offering, more to the question is even whether such as what they offer can be sold. Any gains will obviously be cancelled out by the newly added citizens who will vote Democratic by higher margins then those here, as they have for two centuries. Republicans would be lucky to match Romney's numbers under such a scenario and would probably lose ground overal even as they make gains amongst those currently here.

It is, not for long term political gain that such is being pressed for within the GOP, as those who do press for it like claim. At best it is a short term advantage. In fact it almost leads me inclined to believe the Memphis approach that Republican donors and business types are grabbing what they can before the jig is up, including maximizing their cheap labor to go with the tax cuts.

Let me be clear, my positions on this issue are not derived from the political considerations and I only highlight it to emphasize the double standard as with the former scenario (first paragraph) or in the case of the latter, the false promises of electoral success attached to amnesty proposals by open borders GOP proponents (second and third paragraphs).

Sometimes you can benefit politically from a bad policy, in spite of claims to the contrary ironically, this is not one of them for such a policy of cyclical amnesty and open borders does not yield any significant long term gains, certainly not those that are promised by its supporters.

[hopper]

Does this thread even mean anything from a political point of view? Asians are the fastest voting block of voters in CA not Hispanics.

[All Along The Watchtower]

Hispanic/Latino is an ethnicity

Not really, no.

Ethnolinguistic group is the more precise term.

[Beezer]

Latino is an ethnicity, not a race.  There are a LOT of Latinos who are also white, just as there are many Jews who are white.

Majority as a matter of fact.

Over half (53 percent) of the Hispanic population identified as White and no other race, while about one-third (37 percent) provided responses that were classified as Some Other Race alone when responding to the question on race.

http://www.census.gov/prod/cen2010/briefs/c2010br-04.pdf

10 years earlier those respective shares still stood at 48% and 42%. So I suppose there is a bit of a trend of Hispanics moving into the white bracket when it comes to self-identification. Could perhaps also have an impact on their voting habits down the line...

[bgwah]

First time? I would think they outnumbered whites until the mid-1800s.