Opinion of Hillary Clinton

[IceSpear]

I don't see how the magazine cover is sexist. I also don't see how calling her "Hillary" is sexist. It's the same reason people call Jeb Bush "Jeb".

[nolesfan2011]

A corporate Walmart Democratic politician. HP.

corporate hack/shill, very corrupt, no dice.

[IceSpear]

There's a difference between 70 and 39.

Is that a good difference? Wasn't 'Clinton fatigue' one of the many reasons discussed for the failure of her 2008 campaign? It'd make sense that, with a larger apparatus than in 2008 and more media attention, that that fatigue could be even more amplified come 2016.

The important difference is that I'm not willing to condemn the entire GOP 2016 field. It's still a few years out, and it's far too soon to be making assumptions about candidate strength or the relative horribleness of the GOP's nominee.

Well, I'd bet my life that none of the 3 you listed will be the nominee. And since Christie was likely the furthest left of the likely contenders, the eventual nominee will almost certainly be to his right.

Rand Paul, then, or Daniels, or Thune, or Bush. Not an ideal list of choices, but not 'horrible' either.

In 2008 Obama just had to convince people who had reservations about Hillary and weren't supporting her. In 2016, whoever will need to take away over 20%+ of the support Clinton already has. Quite a big difference, especially for a candidate like Schweitzer or O'Malley who won't have anywhere near the star power or appeal that Obama did.

You'd support Rand Paul over Hillary?

How solid is Hillary's support, though? Are they supporting her because the genuinely like her and agree with her over the other options? Or is it because they view her as the most electable Democrat, or she's just the only name they recognize? We have a good few years for star power and appeal to fluctuate.

Yes, of course. One of the few Republicans I like (the others - Daniels, Bush, Thune - were just 'not-horrible' names) against one of the few Dems I dislike. I'd certainly vote Paul over Hillary if they were the only two options on the ballot.

Well, considering more people want a CONSERVATIVE alternative to Hillary rather than a liberal one, I'd say she's in pretty good shape for the primary.

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[Donerail]

How solid is Hillary's support, though? Are they supporting her because the genuinely like her and agree with her over the other options? Or is it because they view her as the most electable Democrat, or she's just the only name they recognize? We have a good few years for star power and appeal to fluctuate.

Yes, of course. One of the few Republicans I like (the others - Daniels, Bush, Thune - were just 'not-horrible' names) against one of the few Dems I dislike. I'd certainly vote Paul over Hillary if they were the only two options on the ballot.

Well, considering more people want a CONSERVATIVE alternative to Hillary rather than a liberal one, I'd say she's in pretty good shape for the primary.

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That doesn't answer the 'why' question.

[Marnetmar]

Lean FF

[politicallefty]

FF. I will enthusiastically support her in the primary and general election should she decide to run in 2016.