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« Reply #525 on: June 21, 2014, 03:29:44 PM »

Klose.
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« Reply #526 on: June 21, 2014, 03:30:06 PM »

What a game now ... !
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« Reply #527 on: June 21, 2014, 03:30:18 PM »

KLOSE YESSSSSS

HE TIES RONALDO'S RECORD!!!
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« Reply #528 on: June 21, 2014, 03:32:36 PM »

What a match.
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« Reply #529 on: June 21, 2014, 04:04:25 PM »

The U.S. now makes the knockout stage with a pair of draws or a win in either.
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« Reply #530 on: June 21, 2014, 04:07:56 PM »

Bam! Now, I guess, go Portugal and Germany! Those predicting we'd go down 3-0 can go eat dried out kenke.
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« Reply #531 on: June 21, 2014, 04:11:21 PM »

The U.S. now makes the knockout stage with a pair of draws or a win in either.

Oh, thanks, expert fan.
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« Reply #532 on: June 21, 2014, 04:22:13 PM »

Excited to see the bro tears when USA finishes last in the group with two losses.
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« Reply #533 on: June 21, 2014, 04:27:23 PM »

Excited to see the bro tears when USA finishes last in the group with two losses.

538 gives the US around a 2/3 chance of moving on.
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« Reply #534 on: June 21, 2014, 04:27:42 PM »

2-2 was a fair result.

Hope the US at least draws Portugal, as I don't fancy a knockout game against them. I'm not as confident in an easy win as many seem to be.
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« Reply #535 on: June 21, 2014, 05:17:19 PM »

Excited to see the bro tears when USA finishes last in the group with two losses.

538 gives the US around a 2/3 chance of moving on.

I saw that. Not only is it silly, but if there's one thing we know we cannot predict results from soccer rankings or whatnot.
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« Reply #536 on: June 21, 2014, 05:36:21 PM »

Excited to see the bro tears when USA finishes last in the group with two losses.

538 gives the US around a 2/3 chance of moving on.

I saw that. Not only is it silly, but if there's one thing we know we cannot predict results from soccer rankings or whatnot.

I think 2/3 is a reasonable probability, actually. Even one draw is probably enough to get the US through.
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« Reply #537 on: June 21, 2014, 05:37:01 PM »

LOL yeah, the only reason we are scraping by is because we are facing poor teams, the moment we face a decent one we are going to receive an epic beatdown (Like in the last world cup Tongue)
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« Reply #538 on: June 21, 2014, 05:39:44 PM »

Excited to see the bro tears when USA finishes last in the group with two losses.

538 gives the US around a 2/3 chance of moving on.

I saw that. Not only is it silly, but if there's one thing we know we cannot predict results from soccer rankings or whatnot.

I think 2/3 is a reasonable probability, actually. Even one draw is probably enough to get the US through.

Ok. You believe that. Focus less on the scoreline and focus on the game stats, in terms of shots, possession, and so forth. In terms of that, Ghana dominated. Don't let this victory go to your head and think it was all about the US's skill. It was luck.
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« Reply #539 on: June 21, 2014, 05:47:51 PM »

Excited to see the bro tears when USA finishes last in the group with two losses.

538 gives the US around a 2/3 chance of moving on.

I saw that. Not only is it silly, but if there's one thing we know we cannot predict results from soccer rankings or whatnot.

His model takes a lot more into account than "soccer rankings." It looks at how the team has been playing together lately, how good the individual players are, homefield advantage, etc. You can read more about it here. It also adjusts some for play during the tournament, so Ghana playing well is going to raise their chances of advancing, and Portugal's huge loss hurt its chances.

I trust Nate Silver not to put something out there that's not complete garbage, and he even admits that it's very hard to predict these things.
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« Reply #540 on: June 21, 2014, 05:51:43 PM »

Well all your predictors predicted Ghana would be losing horrendously, and look what happened...
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« Reply #541 on: June 21, 2014, 05:57:49 PM »

That was a great game! I generally like Germany, but found myself rooting for Ghana throughout the second half and would have loved to see them win. They did an amazing job throughout the game, except in the last 15/20m when they evidently got tired. Too bad, but still a great game. Smiley

Also, poor Iran. Sad That was really unfair.
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« Reply #542 on: June 21, 2014, 05:59:45 PM »

Well all your predictors predicted Ghana would be losing horrendously, and look what happened...



538 said there was a 19% chance of a draw today. Just as in his election forecasts, he never makes predictions of who wins and who doesn't, he just gives probabilities. We can judge his accuracy over the course of the tournament by seeing if things he said had a 20% probability ended up happening around 20% of the time.
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« Reply #543 on: June 21, 2014, 06:07:46 PM »

Excited to see the bro tears when USA finishes last in the group with two losses.

538 gives the US around a 2/3 chance of moving on.

I saw that. Not only is it silly, but if there's one thing we know we cannot predict results from soccer rankings or whatnot.

I think 2/3 is a reasonable probability, actually. Even one draw is probably enough to get the US through.

Ok. You believe that. Focus less on the scoreline and focus on the game stats, in terms of shots, possession, and so forth. In terms of that, Ghana dominated. Don't let this victory go to your head and think it was all about the US's skill. It was luck.

I was one of the first to note that the US had no business beating Ghana with such a poor performance, but I think it's relatively likely they'll scrape by with a draw in one of the two matches and then narrowly survive on goal difference. They're obviously not a particularly good team.
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« Reply #544 on: June 21, 2014, 06:11:43 PM »

Oh good Snowstalker is predicting USA to lose the next two games. I was worried we didn't have a chance.
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« Reply #545 on: June 21, 2014, 06:16:16 PM »

Oh good Snowstalker is predicting USA to lose the next two games. I was worried we didn't have a chance.

You're not a fan. Stop saying "we."
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« Reply #546 on: June 21, 2014, 06:21:27 PM »

Oh good Snowstalker is predicting USA to lose the next two games. I was worried we didn't have a chance.

I'm 8th of 24 in the tipping competition right now, so...
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« Reply #547 on: June 21, 2014, 06:29:00 PM »

Second half of Ghana-Germany was one of the best 45 minutes of soccer I've ever watched
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« Reply #548 on: June 21, 2014, 06:32:54 PM »

Oh good Snowstalker is predicting USA to lose the next two games. I was worried we didn't have a chance.

You're not a fan. Stop saying "we."

Phil, you are insufferable with your soccer, oh sorry calcio, elitism. 
King is rightly supporting the land of his birth.
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« Reply #549 on: June 21, 2014, 06:46:50 PM »

Oh good Snowstalker is predicting USA to lose the next two games. I was worried we didn't have a chance.

You're not a fan. Stop saying "we."

I'm not the one changing his nationality ever 4 years.

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