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WalterMitty
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« on: March 20, 2005, 02:52:10 PM »

what if mccain would have switched parties and ran against bush in 2004?



mccain/edwards: 363
bush/cheney: 175
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« Reply #1 on: March 20, 2005, 03:06:22 PM »

Hand McCain Missouri and West Virginia, too.
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« Reply #2 on: March 20, 2005, 03:07:56 PM »

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« Reply #3 on: March 20, 2005, 03:14:42 PM »

There would definatly be a huge liberal 3rd party candidate. Dean maybe?
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« Reply #4 on: March 20, 2005, 03:30:42 PM »

There would definatly be a huge liberal 3rd party candidate. Dean maybe?

I think liberal would have the sense not to pull a Nader this time.
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« Reply #5 on: March 20, 2005, 03:38:36 PM »

There would definatly be a huge liberal 3rd party candidate. Dean maybe?

I think liberal would have the sense not to pull a Nader this time.

Yea but I don't think the liberal base would like it that there would be no liberals in the race!
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« Reply #6 on: March 20, 2005, 03:40:26 PM »

The liberals I know like McCain and would be willing to vote for him.
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« Reply #7 on: March 20, 2005, 05:16:14 PM »

Here's the map with a liberal third party factored in:
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« Reply #8 on: March 20, 2005, 06:03:02 PM »



McCain/Edwards 48% 342 EV
Bush/Cheney 43% 193 EV
Dean/Harkin (New American Populist Party) 7% 3 EV

Harkin's presence on the ticket spoils Iowa for McCain.  Iowa, North Carolina, Ohio, Colorado, & New Hampshire are the closest states.
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« Reply #9 on: March 21, 2005, 10:30:28 PM »

Bush would win.   Hardcore Dems wouln't trust McCain's power grab and would stay home.  Conservatives, outraged at McCain's betrayal, would turn out in droves to re-elect Bush. 
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« Reply #10 on: March 21, 2005, 10:32:22 PM »

Bush would win.   Hardcore Dems wouln't trust McCain's power grab and would stay home.  Conservatives, outraged at McCain's betrayal, would turn out in droves to re-elect Bush. 

I agree with NDR. Bush would pull out a win.
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« Reply #11 on: March 21, 2005, 10:40:05 PM »

Alaska would not vote for McCain.
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« Reply #12 on: March 22, 2005, 01:01:36 AM »

Alaska would not vote for McCain.

It would go for Bush 58-40, or something like that. McCain's oppostion to ANWR drilling would kill him, but he'd still do somewhat better than Kerry.
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« Reply #13 on: March 22, 2005, 10:46:35 PM »

McCain clobbers Bush - 446 to 92 electoral votes



The biggest upsets are the Rocky Mountain states and the Great Plains.  Remember that these were some of Perot's strongest states in 1992 and 1996 and some of Nader's strongest states in 2000.  The electoral map looks a lot like 1964 - Dixie is the last Republican holdout.  Remember that insurgent candidates have a history of flopping in Dixie unless they are Dixiecrat segregationists.
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« Reply #14 on: March 23, 2005, 10:36:05 AM »

I agree about the Deep South, but Tennessee would go Democratic before Utah.
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« Reply #15 on: March 23, 2005, 11:06:38 AM »



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