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« on: February 04, 2014, 01:27:14 PM »
« edited: February 04, 2014, 01:52:35 PM by MilesC56 »

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There are good pro-life arguments, and there are bad ones...


Edit: Wow, sorry; this is from 2012. One of my friends had this in their feed, so I assumed it was new.
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« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2014, 01:39:44 PM »
« Edited: February 04, 2014, 01:44:39 PM by Less-Progressivism, More Realism »

I didn't even need to guess which party he's from.

EDIT: This is from March 2012...
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« Reply #2 on: February 04, 2014, 01:42:28 PM »

The outreach continues.
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« Reply #3 on: February 04, 2014, 02:00:28 PM »

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There are good pro-life arguments, and there are bad ones...


Edit: Wow, sorry; this is from 2012. One of my friends had this in their feed, so I assumed it was new.

Is it a bad argument to say that if we can value animal life, we should value human life as well?  That was his argument. 
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« Reply #4 on: February 04, 2014, 02:03:59 PM »

At least he didn't mention rape like his colleagues do.  Ugh.
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« Reply #5 on: February 04, 2014, 02:07:15 PM »

No, he didn't equate women with cows and pigs.  He's talking about how it's sad to see something not born alive.  Not the analogy I'd use, but you're making a pretty big stretch on this one.
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« Reply #6 on: February 04, 2014, 06:31:10 PM »

Sorry I posted this Tongue
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« Reply #7 on: February 04, 2014, 06:43:37 PM »

No embryo should be destroyed after twenty weeks (unless due to health), animal or human.
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« Reply #8 on: February 04, 2014, 06:45:42 PM »

No embryo should be destroyed after twenty weeks (unless due to health), animal or human.

At twenty weeks, it's no longer an embryo, but a fetus (at least in humans).
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« Reply #9 on: February 04, 2014, 07:02:37 PM »

So everyone running for Senate in Georgia isn't monopolizing the crazy...
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« Reply #10 on: February 04, 2014, 07:23:02 PM »

No embryo should be destroyed after twenty weeks (unless due to health), animal or human.

You're a vegetarian?
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« Reply #11 on: February 04, 2014, 07:28:26 PM »

I don't want to be Analogy Police (YES I DO), but Nathan is right.  This is an analogy.  An analogy compares something that's substantively alike in two otherwise unalike things.  An analogy does not "equate," or imply that the two compared things are substantively alike in all ways.  If it did, it wouldn't be an analogy.

ANALOGY POLICE OUT, BROSEPHS.
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« Reply #12 on: February 04, 2014, 07:41:47 PM »

I don't want to be Analogy Police (YES I DO), but Nathan is right.  This is an analogy.  An analogy compares something that's substantively alike in two otherwise unalike things.  An analogy does not "equate," or imply that the two compared things are substantively alike in all ways.  If it did, it wouldn't be an analogy.

ANALOGY POLICE OUT, BROSEPHS.

Ya know, I almost used "compares" instead of "equates" for the post title.
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« Reply #13 on: February 04, 2014, 07:48:40 PM »

I don't want to be Analogy Police (YES I DO), but Nathan is right.  This is an analogy.  An analogy compares something that's substantively alike in two otherwise unalike things.  An analogy does not "equate," or imply that the two compared things are substantively alike in all ways.  If it did, it wouldn't be an analogy.

ANALOGY POLICE OUT, BROSEPHS.

Ya know, I almost used "compares" instead of "equates" for the post title.

OK, well he still wasn't comparing women to cows or pigs, so that wouldn't have made it much better anyway.
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« Reply #14 on: February 06, 2014, 06:00:42 PM »

That's not even the big problem here, Nathan.  There's nothing offensive in "comparing" things, because comparing them doesn't equate them!  It's meant to show some significant similarity.  It's not meant to equate the two things in ways besides that similarity.  This whole "you can't compare x to y!" thing totally misunderstands the point of analogies.

This is especially bad when someone uses a reductio ad absurdum argument -- which "reduces an argument to the absurd" by showing how that argument, applied consistently, would require you to accept something absurd/terrible.  I've seen people on the Atlas use a reductio ad absurdum to show how an argument to support thing A would require someone to accept awful thing B, and then someone shoots back, "but you can't compare A and B!  B is terrible!"  No duh.  That's the idea.

The phrase "you can't compare __ and __" needs to die, because you can always compare two things.  The question is whether the comparison is accurate and meaningful.

Sorry, rant over.  It's just tough to see this behavior on a forum where we all should know better.
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« Reply #15 on: February 06, 2014, 10:21:23 PM »

this man is my state representative
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« Reply #16 on: February 06, 2014, 10:27:04 PM »


BACON KING 2016
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« Reply #17 on: February 07, 2014, 10:42:13 AM »


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« Reply #18 on: February 07, 2014, 11:39:03 AM »

Quick, get him to run for Senate. He'd be the perfect candidate to the hold the seats for Republicans.
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« Reply #19 on: February 07, 2014, 11:43:56 AM »

I am astounded as to how stupid some militant pro-choice Americans are.   
He isn't equating women with cows or pigs at all. He's using an analogy with a situation he is personally familiar with to highlight the sadness of offspring being delivered dead.
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« Reply #20 on: February 07, 2014, 01:34:11 PM »

I am astounded as to how stupid some militant pro-choice Americans are.   

Haha, are you suggesting this behavior of misunderstanding analogies is somehow specific to pro-choice Americans?  If not, what is the point of phrasing your sentence that way?
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