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« on: February 07, 2014, 11:39:08 AM »

Of course. Sure Gaddafi would've probably slaughtered millions in Benghazi like he openly promised to do but at least it wouldn't be under the control of the evil corporatist neoliberal NATO puppets that it is now.
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« Reply #1 on: February 07, 2014, 05:23:52 PM »

I always thought that Kaddafi was funny, but this is because I was never at his rule. He was a monster and Libya is better off without him =)
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« Reply #2 on: February 07, 2014, 08:09:58 PM »

No (normal)
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« Reply #3 on: February 07, 2014, 10:20:00 PM »

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« Reply #4 on: February 07, 2014, 10:32:24 PM »

I'm guessing that if there'd been no NATO intervention, there'd still be an ongoing insurgency there.  He wouldn't be "in power" in the entire country.
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« Reply #5 on: February 07, 2014, 10:51:43 PM »

Post Arab Spring, no. Pre-Arab Spring, it was far, far better.
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« Reply #6 on: February 07, 2014, 10:56:25 PM »

BRTD, it's hard to tell if you are trolling or if your post was just legitimately that stupid.
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« Reply #7 on: February 07, 2014, 11:17:59 PM »

BRTD, it's hard to tell if you are trolling or if your post was just legitimately that stupid.

It's a parody of the Sage logic often used and the people posting about how Libya is so terrible now and how NATO messed it up so badly by intervening.
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« Reply #8 on: February 08, 2014, 12:58:16 AM »

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« Reply #9 on: February 08, 2014, 01:21:31 AM »

No, even a fledgling democracy that's working through the initial aches and pains is better than a quasi-monarchy established by an insane, murderous tyrant.
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« Reply #10 on: February 08, 2014, 05:14:17 AM »

I'm guessing that if there'd been no NATO intervention, there'd still be an ongoing insurgency there.  He wouldn't be "in power" in the entire country.


I'd personally say that he'd have crushed the uprising and probably flattened Benghazi afterwards.
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« Reply #11 on: February 08, 2014, 07:13:41 AM »

I'm guessing that if there'd been no NATO intervention, there'd still be an ongoing insurgency there.  He wouldn't be "in power" in the entire country.


I'd personally say that he'd have crushed the uprising and probably flattened Benghazi afterwards.

Once the uprising was in full swing, did he actually have the manpower to ever hold the entire country together at once?  Seems like he was stretched pretty thin.
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« Reply #12 on: February 08, 2014, 11:51:24 AM »

If it hadn't been for the NATO intervention, he would taken Benghazi. He was stretched thin, but on 19 March he was attacking that city and Misrata, the centres of rebel territory.

After Benghazi fell, the rebellion would have probably collapsed in short order.
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« Reply #13 on: February 08, 2014, 12:06:49 PM »

No, but it wouldn't be particularly worse off. Truly a nation stuck between a rock and a hard place.
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« Reply #14 on: February 08, 2014, 07:52:16 PM »

Definitely yes. And Iraq would be better off if Hussein were still in power and we never touched that country.

Also, had Gaddafi made his African gold dinar a reality, that entire continent would be better off.
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« Reply #15 on: February 08, 2014, 09:50:50 PM »

LOL Kaddafi is a freedom fighter now?!
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« Reply #16 on: February 09, 2014, 12:37:19 AM »

Definitely yes. And Iraq would be better off if Hussein were still in power and we never touched that country.

Also, had Gaddafi made his African gold dinar a reality, that entire continent would be better off.

Yes, because rule under murderous, paranoid tyrants is always better than unstable democracies (though I will agree that we shouldn't have touched Iraq). /sarcasm
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« Reply #17 on: February 09, 2014, 12:53:09 AM »

Definitely yes. And Iraq would be better off if Hussein were still in power and we never touched that country.

Also, had Gaddafi made his African gold dinar a reality, that entire continent would be better off.

I think you may have missed the point of the thread.
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« Reply #18 on: February 09, 2014, 02:33:47 AM »

How many of supporters of the Libyan intervention here would have supported the 1969 coup? I can see quite a few of you guys celebrating his rise to power if the forum existed then.
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« Reply #19 on: February 09, 2014, 05:46:18 AM »

Definitely yes. And Iraq would be better off if Hussein were still in power and we never touched that country.

Also, had Gaddafi made his African gold dinar a reality, that entire continent would be better off.

Yes clearly Africa would be much better off, if they was forced to loan fortunes to buy up gold which would be exploding in price. Gold standards make sense if you have a BOP surplus.

An gold dinar would have this result; rich Arabic countries bought up gold for oil, they "borrowed" them to African countries, who used them to buy western products. How nice for Africans that they now have become "clients" (read colonies) of the Arabic states.

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« Reply #20 on: February 09, 2014, 12:53:13 PM »

How many of supporters of the Libyan intervention here would have supported the 1969 coup? I can see quite a few of you guys celebrating his rise to power if the forum existed then.

Yes, and...?
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