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« on: March 20, 2005, 11:47:10 PM »

Will the Terri Schiavo bill pass the house tonight? (3/20)
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« Reply #1 on: March 20, 2005, 11:53:05 PM »

What is your overall opinion of Rep. Mel Watt (NC)?
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« Reply #2 on: March 20, 2005, 11:56:57 PM »

This bill is a giant waste of time. Doesn't Congress have important things to worry about like massive deficits, poor job creation, that we attacked the wrong country, global warming, peak oil, and so on?

How does a woman whose case has been before 19 judges, and has been comatose and brain-dead for decades warrent more attention?
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« Reply #3 on: March 21, 2005, 12:08:34 AM »

How does a woman whose case has been before 19 judges, and has been comatose and brain-dead for decades warrent more attention?
Because it's about saving a human life.  There's a difference between brain-damaged and brain-dead by the way.
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« Reply #4 on: March 21, 2005, 12:18:45 AM »

Is anyone watching C-SPAN?
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« Reply #5 on: March 21, 2005, 12:42:43 AM »

Normally, I would agree with those who say that this is primarily a local decision and that this should not be interfered in any at federal level.

However...

In this particular case, there seems to be such an unwarranted finding of fact in this case, based solely on the hearsay testimony of her husband without any written proof...

that (especially since someone's life is in danger) I think it is the necessity of the federal government to act and take away the power to rule over this decision from this legally inept judge.
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« Reply #6 on: March 21, 2005, 12:48:05 AM »

How does a woman whose case has been before 19 judges, and has been comatose and brain-dead for decades warrent more attention?
Because it's about saving a human life.  There's a difference between brain-damaged and brain-dead by the way.

We would have saved a lot more than 1 life by not invading Iraq.
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« Reply #7 on: March 21, 2005, 12:51:49 AM »

The bill passed:
http://sify.com/news/fullstory.php?id=13698122
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« Reply #8 on: March 21, 2005, 12:53:13 AM »

How does a woman whose case has been before 19 judges, and has been comatose and brain-dead for decades warrent more attention?
Because it's about saving a human life.  There's a difference between brain-damaged and brain-dead by the way.

We would have saved a lot more than 1 life by not invading Iraq.
Do you see me supporting the war in Iraq?

And besides, just because one act saves more lives than another, it doesn't mean that the less significant act shouldn't be committed.
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« Reply #9 on: March 21, 2005, 01:06:38 AM »

How does a woman whose case has been before 19 judges, and has been comatose and brain-dead for decades warrent more attention?
Because it's about saving a human life.  There's a difference between brain-damaged and brain-dead by the way.

We would have saved a lot more than 1 life by not invading Iraq.

We actually saved many lives by invading Iraq, but you won't see past your myopia.  You would have been one of those people advocating peace with Hitler.
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« Reply #10 on: March 21, 2005, 02:04:33 AM »

How does a woman whose case has been before 19 judges, and has been comatose and brain-dead for decades warrent more attention?
Because it's about saving a human life.  There's a difference between brain-damaged and brain-dead by the way.

We would have saved a lot more than 1 life by not invading Iraq.

We actually saved many lives by invading Iraq, but you won't see past your myopia.  You would have been one of those people advocating peace with Hitler.

Yes, JFern would definately have sided with Chamberlain in the 1930s.
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« Reply #11 on: March 21, 2005, 02:06:23 AM »

How does a woman whose case has been before 19 judges, and has been comatose and brain-dead for decades warrent more attention?
Because it's about saving a human life.  There's a difference between brain-damaged and brain-dead by the way.

We would have saved a lot more than 1 life by not invading Iraq.

We actually saved many lives by invading Iraq, but you won't see past your myopia.  You would have been one of those people advocating peace with Hitler.

Yes, JFern would definately have sided with Chamberlain in the 1930s.

Godwin's law, I win.
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« Reply #12 on: March 21, 2005, 02:49:03 AM »

The wrong decision was made for political reasons again.

From a Republican memo:
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« Reply #13 on: March 21, 2005, 03:11:23 AM »


By invoking that law, you have also lost.
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« Reply #14 on: March 21, 2005, 03:16:54 AM »

How does a woman whose case has been before 19 judges, and has been comatose and brain-dead for decades warrent more attention?

Wrong again (and if you were right, it would not be an issue).  She is not comatose, as there seems to be some voluntary movement on her part.  The term is "a persistent vegetative state."  (And no, that does not mean she is a "vegetable.")

One problem is that she left no instructions witnessed by a third party (or even written instructions).

I've got to come down on the wishes of the next of kin, in this case her husband.  No, I do not agree that Congress should become involved.
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« Reply #15 on: March 21, 2005, 03:34:30 AM »

Again, the Republicans are massive hypocrites.

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« Reply #16 on: March 21, 2005, 07:17:17 AM »

How does a woman whose case has been before 19 judges, and has been comatose and brain-dead for decades warrent more attention?
Because it's about saving a human life.  There's a difference between brain-damaged and brain-dead by the way.

We would have saved a lot more than 1 life by not invading Iraq.

We actually saved many lives by invading Iraq, but you won't see past your myopia.  You would have been one of those people advocating peace with Hitler.

What a poor comparison - the attack on Iraq was much more similar to the Spanish-American war than the second world war.  It was nothing but a jingoistic/imperialistic land-grab for domestic political purposes.
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« Reply #17 on: March 21, 2005, 11:01:55 AM »

Those of you who read and write liberal blogs try to turn any social issue into an economic issue because you know you have lost the debate on social issues.

Oh, and no matter how many times you guys repeat the "conservative Republicans dominate the mainstream media" line, the majority of Americans will continue to strongly believe the opposite.
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« Reply #18 on: March 21, 2005, 11:20:12 AM »

How does a woman whose case has been before 19 judges, and has been comatose and brain-dead for decades warrent more attention?
Because it's about saving a human life.  There's a difference between brain-damaged and brain-dead by the way.

We would have saved a lot more than 1 life by not invading Iraq.

We actually saved many lives by invading Iraq, but you won't see past your myopia.  You would have been one of those people advocating peace with Hitler.

Yes, JFern would definately have sided with Chamberlain in the 1930s.

Godwin's law, I win.

He compared you to Chamberlain, not Hitler. You lose.
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« Reply #19 on: March 21, 2005, 12:16:26 PM »

Those of you who read and write liberal blogs try to turn any social issue into an economic issue because you know you have lost the debate on social issues.


What do you mean 'lost the debate'?  As in the majority votes for intolerance?  Yes I would agree with that. 
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« Reply #20 on: March 21, 2005, 12:31:54 PM »

Those of you who read and write liberal blogs try to turn any social issue into an economic issue because you know you have lost the debate on social issues.


What do you mean 'lost the debate'?  As in the majority votes for intolerance?  Yes I would agree with that. 
I imagine what disturbs you, jfern and this blogger most is not that the Republicans won the debate on social issues last November, but that the Democratic leaders are tripping over themselves to "reach out" to social conservatives (Hillary being the most recent example).
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« Reply #21 on: March 21, 2005, 12:57:37 PM »

House vote:
                   Yeas Nays  NV
Republican   156    5     71
Democratic     47  53   102
Independent                 1
TOTALS         203 58   174

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« Reply #22 on: March 21, 2005, 01:10:46 PM »

Those of you who read and write liberal blogs try to turn any social issue into an economic issue because you know you have lost the debate on social issues.

What do you mean 'lost the debate'?  As in the majority votes for intolerance?  Yes I would agree with that. 
I imagine what disturbs you, jfern and this blogger most is not that the Republicans won the debate on social issues last November, but that the Democratic leaders are tripping over themselves to "reach out" to social conservatives (Hillary being the most recent example).

Well obviously - we don't want to have two parties representing the hate-filled intolerant majority, and none for the sizable minority of Americans that are enlightened.
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« Reply #23 on: March 21, 2005, 02:54:08 PM »
« Edited: March 21, 2005, 02:56:45 PM by nickshepDEM »

Are there any polls on the Terri Schiavo situation and bill?


Did anyone watch C-Span while the vote was taking place?  Did you hear the Republican caller who said he was switching parties because of this bill?
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« Reply #24 on: March 21, 2005, 03:06:48 PM »

Did you hear the Republican caller who said he was switching parties because of this bill?

I think the GOP is better off without him.
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