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« on: February 09, 2014, 08:17:12 PM »
« edited: February 09, 2014, 08:21:28 PM by Mardi Gras Miles »

Article.

They polled Catholics in 12 counties: Mexico, Brazil, Argentina, Congo, Colombia, Spain, France, Italy, Philippines, Poland, Uganda, USA.

Pope Francis Approval

Excellent- 41%
Good- 46%
Mediocre- 5%
Poor- 1%

Should priests be able to get married?

Yes- 50%
No- 47%

Should women be allowed to become priests?

Yes- 45%
No- 51%

Abortion

Allowed in all cases- 9%
Some cases- 57%
Not allowed- 33%

Should gay marriage be legal?

No- 66%
Yes- 30%

A majority of American and Spanish Catholics support SSM though. The article has other regional breakdowns.
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« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2014, 08:40:34 PM »

It seems like its African and South American countries that are holding some of these what you'd call "duh" answers back. Not surprising though. For example, for the women catholic priests questions: No/Yes

France: 14/83
Spain: 17/78
Italy: 35/59

Congo: 79/18
Uganda: 81/17
Mexico: 63/35
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« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2014, 08:43:51 PM »

I'm against women being priests Tongue
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« Reply #3 on: February 09, 2014, 08:54:20 PM »

I wish they had a breakdown by mass attendance, but otherwise I can't complain. A very informative report.

It seems like its African and South American countries that are holding some of these what you'd call "duh" answers back. Not surprising though.

OTOH the Western non-attendee are probably boosting degenerate enlightened scores. I really doubt the median American or French self-described Catholic attends mass beyond Christmas & Easter for example.
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« Reply #4 on: February 09, 2014, 09:03:23 PM »


Well, I was just using one example to demonstrate the general pattern.  Maybe a better example would be contraceptives or divorce. Although Latin America is pretty supportive of this, really only Africa and the Philippines to a smaller extent are divided. On another note I'm surprised that Europe is less supportive than us on same-sex marriage.

It seems like its African and South American countries that are holding some of these what you'd call "duh" answers back. Not surprising though.

OTOH the Western non-attendee are probably boosting degenerate enlightened scores. I really doubt the median American or French self-described Catholic attends mass beyond Christmas & Easter for example.

That's a good point too, which makes Europe and the US more independent of the church. Not too surprising.
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« Reply #5 on: February 10, 2014, 06:32:17 AM »

I hope a woman can be a priest one day Tongue
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« Reply #6 on: February 10, 2014, 11:56:20 AM »
« Edited: February 10, 2014, 11:58:21 AM by The sidewalk cracks this way »

I wish they had a breakdown by mass attendance, but otherwise I can't complain. A very informative report.

It seems like its African and South American countries that are holding some of these what you'd call "duh" answers back. Not surprising though.

OTOH the Western non-attendee are probably boosting degenerate enlightened scores. I really doubt the median American or French self-described Catholic attends mass beyond Christmas & Easter for example.

That's probably true in France, but in America? In America people who don't practice actually leave the church. 33% of Americans raised Catholic have. I'm sure the median American Catholic goes to mass more than twice a year (though no doubt not weekly.)

I hope a woman can be a priest one day Tongue

They already can...in other churches like the Episcopal Church. If you want to have women be able to be priests then all you have to do is convert.
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« Reply #7 on: February 10, 2014, 11:58:59 PM »

Surprised to see plurality opposition to gay marriage in Argentina and Brazil, considering how it's legal in both countries. Not surprised that American Catholics support gay marriage 54-40, though.

Also, happy to see my own assertions about what [American] Catholics actually think about contraception proven correct.
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« Reply #8 on: February 12, 2014, 10:04:09 AM »

France isn't too surprising, given that there are fairly few liberal Catholics in the country. Argentina and Brazil's results are probably shifting towards Yes, as are Mexico's and Colombia's (the latter has civil unions while the former recognizes same-sex marriages nationwide but only performs them in a few states).

The European results are interesting. In France/Italy I presume many social liberals left the church, while in Spain they've stayed.
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« Reply #9 on: February 12, 2014, 04:31:55 PM »

I wish they had a breakdown by mass attendance, but otherwise I can't complain. A very informative report.

It seems like its African and South American countries that are holding some of these what you'd call "duh" answers back. Not surprising though.

OTOH the Western non-attendee are probably boosting degenerate enlightened scores. I really doubt the median American or French self-described Catholic attends mass beyond Christmas & Easter for example.

That's probably true in France, but in America? In America people who don't practice actually leave the church. 33% of Americans raised Catholic have. I'm sure the median American Catholic goes to mass more than twice a year (though no doubt not weekly.)

Yeah... Come to think of it, it's more of a generational thing, but I'm sure we've talked about that before Tongue

The European results are interesting. In France/Italy I presume many social liberals left the church, while in Spain they've stayed.

With the exception of gay marriage, France is more socially liberal than Spain.
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« Reply #10 on: February 16, 2014, 10:50:08 AM »

The European results are interesting. In France/Italy I presume many social liberals left the church, while in Spain they've stayed.

With the exception of gay marriage, France is more socially liberal than Spain.

That's the stereotype, but in general cultural attitudes France actually strikes me as one of the more culturally conservative/traditionalist countries in Western Europe.
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« Reply #11 on: February 16, 2014, 11:50:16 AM »

The European results are interesting. In France/Italy I presume many social liberals left the church, while in Spain they've stayed.

With the exception of gay marriage, France is more socially liberal than Spain.

That's the stereotype, but in general cultural attitudes France actually strikes me as one of the more culturally conservative/traditionalist countries in Western Europe.

Not according to the polling. France has the lowest opposition to contraception, highest acceptance of abortion etc. Or do you mean that the practising Catholics are more traditional?
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« Reply #12 on: February 18, 2014, 10:10:15 AM »

The latter, sure. France has incredibly low church attendance rates even by Western European standards.
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