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« Reply #25 on: February 13, 2014, 04:32:06 PM »

Sandoval essentially decided that the voters of Nevada's voice should not be heard. He ought to be primaried -- I will never vote for him for anything!

You are a gay republican who opposes gay marriage, correct? And Nevada supports SSM now, in case you haven't seen the polls lately.
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« Reply #26 on: February 13, 2014, 05:52:48 PM »

Sandoval essentially decided that the voters of Nevada's voice should not be heard. He ought to be primaried -- I will never vote for him for anything!

Cool story bro.

Constitutional rights > public opinion.
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« Reply #27 on: February 13, 2014, 08:36:13 PM »

Sandoval essentially decided that the voters of Nevada's voice should not be heard. He ought to be primaried -- I will never vote for him for anything!

A conservative Republican who opposes marriage equality living in San Francisco?  That must be fun.
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« Reply #28 on: February 14, 2014, 12:12:21 AM »

It's not a marriage..who is the husband? Who is the wife?

The voters should be allowed to speak at the ballot box, not what some PPP poll said.

Wants are not constitutional rights.

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« Reply #29 on: February 14, 2014, 12:15:17 AM »

It's not a marriage..who is the husband? Who is the wife?

The voters should be allowed to speak at the ballot box, not what some PPP poll said.

Wants are not constitutional rights.




Actually the constitution supports the right for two men or two women to marry eachother.

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« Reply #30 on: February 14, 2014, 12:19:53 AM »

It's not a marriage..who is the husband? Who is the wife?

The voters should be allowed to speak at the ballot box, not what some PPP poll said.

Wants are not constitutional rights.




Actually the constitution supports the right for two men or two women to marry eachother.



What about 3? or 4?
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« Reply #31 on: February 14, 2014, 12:35:28 AM »

It's not a marriage..who is the husband? Who is the wife?

The voters should be allowed to speak at the ballot box, not what some PPP poll said.

Wants are not constitutional rights.




Actually the constitution supports the right for two men or two women to marry eachother.



What about 3? or 4?
Sure, why not?
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« Reply #32 on: February 14, 2014, 12:37:03 AM »

It's defensible in court until a liberal judge finds a "right" to marry in the constitution for a specific group.

Sandoval is somebody who should be primaried for doing this, but alas he won't be.
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« Reply #33 on: February 14, 2014, 12:42:29 AM »

It's not a marriage..who is the husband? Who is the wife?

The voters should be allowed to speak at the ballot box, not what some PPP poll said.

Wants are not constitutional rights.




Actually the constitution supports the right for two men or two women to marry eachother.



What about 3? or 4?
Sure, why not?
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« Reply #34 on: February 14, 2014, 12:45:10 AM »

As a gay conservative myself, I've gotten more flack from liberals in California than I ever have from religious conservatives.

It's not a marriage..who is the husband? Who is the wife?

The voters should be allowed to speak at the ballot box, not what some PPP poll said.

Wants are not constitutional rights.




Why are you arguing against gay marriage if you are a gay man?

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« Reply #35 on: February 14, 2014, 12:46:57 AM »

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Because I happen to believe marriage is a unique institution between one husband and one wife. And I don't believe that homosexuality should be celebrated. It is something I am ashamed of, not proud of. I want to be normal.
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« Reply #36 on: February 14, 2014, 12:52:28 AM »

It's not a marriage..who is the husband? Who is the wife?

appeal to tradition fallacy
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« Reply #37 on: February 14, 2014, 12:53:35 AM »


I embrace tradition. It's what sets boundaries.
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« Reply #38 on: February 14, 2014, 12:55:48 AM »

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Because I happen to believe marriage is a unique institution between one husband and one wife. And I don't believe that homosexuality should be celebrated. It is something I am ashamed of, not proud of. I want to be normal.

If you're not a troll and you're telling the truth, then I honestly feel very sorry for you. You should be proud of who you are, not ashamed. And you ARE normal.
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« Reply #39 on: February 14, 2014, 12:57:39 AM »

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Homosexuality is just defined as same-sex attraction. It has nothing to do with 'who I am' - there is way more to life than just talking about your sexuality....
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« Reply #40 on: February 14, 2014, 12:59:54 AM »

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Homosexuality is just defined as same-sex attraction. It has nothing to do with 'who I am' - there is way more to life than just talking about your sexuality....

which is why people shouldn't treat homosexuality as anything strange. It's just how some people are, and why you shouldn't feel ashamed of who you're attracted to.
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« Reply #41 on: February 14, 2014, 01:00:19 AM »

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Because I happen to believe marriage is a unique institution between one husband and one wife. And I don't believe that homosexuality should be celebrated. It is something I am ashamed of, not proud of. I want to be normal.

Well, that's not good. Sad

You are presented with a choice: either come to an accord with your sexual orientation, or demean it, pushing your self-esteem lower and lower. Pick the first one, and you'll feel better about yourself. Smiley

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« Reply #42 on: February 14, 2014, 01:01:49 AM »

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Because I happen to believe marriage is a unique institution between one husband and one wife. And I don't believe that homosexuality should be celebrated. It is something I am ashamed of, not proud of. I want to be normal.

Well, that's not good. Sad

You are presented with a choice: either come to an accord with your sexual orientation, or demean it, pushing your self-esteem lower and lower. Pick the first one, and you'll feel better about yourself. Smiley



what he said!
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« Reply #43 on: February 14, 2014, 01:03:22 AM »

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Well, I think we should be ashamed of everything the Bible tells us not to do.
I just don't see the point of homosexuality on Earth and the purpose it serves. Jesus should be the only person we're concerned about thinks of us!

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Since my life doesn't revolve around me being gay, I don't let it effect my self-esteem in the least. But I do strive to ask our Lord for guidance.
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« Reply #44 on: February 14, 2014, 01:04:03 AM »

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Because I happen to believe marriage is a unique institution between one husband and one wife. And I don't believe that homosexuality should be celebrated. It is something I am ashamed of, not proud of. I want to be normal.

Get help.
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« Reply #45 on: February 14, 2014, 01:07:21 AM »

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Because I happen to believe marriage is a unique institution between one husband and one wife. And I don't believe that homosexuality should be celebrated. It is something I am ashamed of, not proud of. I want to be normal.

Get help.

So anyone who doesn't agree with your worldview or doesn't embrace their homosexuality needs to "Get help?"

what is it to you?
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« Reply #46 on: February 14, 2014, 01:08:37 AM »

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Because I happen to believe marriage is a unique institution between one husband and one wife. And I don't believe that homosexuality should be celebrated. It is something I am ashamed of, not proud of. I want to be normal.

Get help.

So anyone who doesn't agree with your worldview or doesn't embrace their homosexuality needs to "Get help?

Yeah.

Let's leave it at that.
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« Reply #47 on: February 14, 2014, 01:11:26 AM »

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Then I really think all that NO H8/Tolerance stuff should come with an asterisk, because you're not practicing it at all right now.
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« Reply #48 on: February 14, 2014, 01:16:35 AM »

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Then I really think all that NO H8/Tolerance stuff should come with an asterisk, because you're not practicing it at all right now.


Alright.  Cool.

The only reason I haven't completely written you off as a troll yet is that there are people who think like you and gays who struggle with their sexuality.  I have plenty of pity for those people, so believe me, the last thing I am is intolerant.
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« Reply #49 on: February 14, 2014, 01:17:29 AM »

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Since my life doesn't revolve around me being gay, I don't let it effect my self-esteem in the least. But I do strive to ask our Lord for guidance.

I mean, you can say that all you want. And in a sense, my life, or your life, or any other gay person's life doesn't revolve around our gayitude. But, and it's a big but- many things all humans do- such as fall in love, worship their God (or not), interact with friends and family, etc. is powerfully impacted by our sexual orientation. Inevitably, everyone's lives revolves around who they're sexually attracted to, or not.

And in any case, since your dislike for your sexuality appears to be informed by your religion, I'll point you to some churches which are friendly to LGBT folks-I'm not sure of your denomination so I posted several different ones:

http://www.ucc.org/
http://www.episcopalchurch.org/
http://myapci.net/

With regards to the specific scriptural basis for homophobia, I'm unfortunately not knowledgeable in the Scripture to advise you. I'd direct to our Religion and Philosophy board, or just a Google search, but, needless to say, it is far from a consensus that those certain passages mean what some people think.
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