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« Reply #25 on: February 18, 2014, 12:03:40 AM »

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« Reply #26 on: February 18, 2014, 12:51:44 AM »

Should we have given every Japanese citizen American citizenship in 1945? They were under our  sovereign jurisdiction.

We didn't stay and had no intention of staying. We also didn't encourage our own citizens to settle in Japan to fulfill some bizarre religious prophecy.
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« Reply #27 on: February 18, 2014, 09:51:04 AM »

Israel in the 1967 borders is most probably not, though there is some discrimination and those religious and nationalist lunatics that want it to become one. On the other hand they have their restricted areas, deprivation of land and their own "Bantustans" with all problems attached to it. So I see it as a legit claim that their treatment of the area and people outside the 1967 borders is apartheid.
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« Reply #28 on: February 18, 2014, 11:17:25 AM »

Yes (doesn't buy Zionist propaganda)
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« Reply #29 on: February 18, 2014, 11:21:27 AM »

Asking to "name another state" is obviously a ludicrous proposition, since no other state occupies territory whose inhabitants it does not claim as its own.
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« Reply #30 on: February 18, 2014, 12:41:00 PM »

The fact that anybody could say yes is remarkably insulting to those that actually did live under apartheid.

They seem to disagree.
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« Reply #31 on: February 18, 2014, 07:25:09 PM »

There are certainly a load of problems with Israel's policy towards the occupied West Bank, but no, not at all.

This is the only possible answer.

Also, the phrase "Zionist propaganda" is a great conversation-ender.  Just sayin'.
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« Reply #32 on: February 19, 2014, 05:27:12 PM »

Asking to "name another state" is obviously a ludicrous proposition, since no other state occupies territory whose inhabitants it does not claim as its own.

Which is exactly the point I was trying to make.
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« Reply #33 on: February 19, 2014, 05:34:27 PM »

Apartheid in action, but not necessarily by intentions (outside of the hardcore Zionists/nationalists).
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« Reply #34 on: February 26, 2014, 01:13:27 PM »

Asking to "name another state" is obviously a ludicrous proposition, since no other state occupies territory whose inhabitants it does not claim as its own.

Which is exactly the point I was trying to make.

Does that include Western Sahara?  Building a wall down the middle and making no attempt to govern the part on the other side of it seems right in line with "claiming land but not the inhabitants."
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« Reply #35 on: February 26, 2014, 02:04:20 PM »

Option 3.  While the way the Israelis & Palestinians are separated is similar to apartheid, it's not the same as it was in South Africa.
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« Reply #36 on: February 26, 2014, 03:05:17 PM »

Asking to "name another state" is obviously a ludicrous proposition, since no other state occupies territory whose inhabitants it does not claim as its own.

Which is exactly the point I was trying to make.

Does that include Western Sahara?  Building a wall down the middle and making no attempt to govern the part on the other side of it seems right in line with "claiming land but not the inhabitants."

No, because Morocco claims both the land and people on its side of the sand berms and at this point is basically not bothering with the land or people beyond them.
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