Opinion of Karl Marx

[Comrade Funk]

Just because his ideology is stupid and unworkable, it doesn't mean he's a HP. He didn't know what communism would become, just like Jesus didn't know what his religion would become.

FP I guess.

[morgieb]

Well, at least he's one of the most (possibly the most) historically important theorist to live.

[Rooney]

It could be argued he is the most evil person ever born. I personally agree with that argument.

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

The most awful philosopher in history.

[Franzl]

It could be argued he is the most evil person ever born. I personally agree with that argument.

lol

[SWE]

It could be argued he is the most evil person ever born. I personally agree with that argument.

No

[The world will shine with light in our nightmare]

As Gustaf said, the man was clearly misguided and his predictions were inaccurate... but I don't see how on earth that makes him "the most evil person ever born."  I mean, is that statement even worth rebutting?

[Rooney]

It could be argued he is the most evil person ever born. I personally agree with that argument.

No

Did not his philosophy destroy the human spirit? Did it not force individuals into a collective? Did it not put forward the nauseous theories of "state ownership" and the "Labor Theory of Capital?" How many were murdered on the alter of reaching his utopian system? Marx murdered the human spirit and his system degrades the rights of man. He is the ultimate of all evil.

[The world will shine with light in our nightmare]

It could be argued he is the most evil person ever born. I personally agree with that argument.

No

Did not his philosophy destroy the human spirit? Did it not force individuals into a collective? Did it not put forward the nauseous theories of "state ownership" and the "Labor Theory of Capital?" How many were murdered on the alter of reaching his utopian system? Marx murdered the human spirit and his system degrades the rights of man. He is the ultimate of all evil.

Karl Marx had a pen.  Adolf Hitler had a gas chamber.

Notice the difference.

[Oswald Acted Alone, You Kook]

It could be argued he is the most evil person ever born. I personally agree with that argument.

No

Did not his philosophy destroy the human spirit? Did it not force individuals into a collective? Did it not put forward the nauseous theories of "state ownership" and the "Labor Theory of Capital?" How many were murdered on the alter of reaching his utopian system? Marx murdered the human spirit and his system degrades the rights of man. He is the ultimate of all evil.

Karl Marx had a pen.  Adolf Hitler had a gas chamber.

Notice the difference.

Hitler wasn't a communist, so use some other evil guy like Mao or Pol Pot or the Kims of North Korea.

[bedstuy]

It could be argued he is the most evil person ever born. I personally agree with that argument.

No

Did not his philosophy destroy the human spirit? Did it not force individuals into a collective? Did it not put forward the nauseous theories of "state ownership" and the "Labor Theory of Capital?" How many were murdered on the alter of reaching his utopian system? Marx murdered the human spirit and his system degrades the rights of man. He is the ultimate of all evil.

Karl Marx didn't run any countries.  Do you also blame JD Salinger for the murder of John Lennon?

[Oswald Acted Alone, You Kook]

It could be argued he is the most evil person ever born. I personally agree with that argument.

No

Did not his philosophy destroy the human spirit? Did it not force individuals into a collective? Did it not put forward the nauseous theories of "state ownership" and the "Labor Theory of Capital?" How many were murdered on the alter of reaching his utopian system? Marx murdered the human spirit and his system degrades the rights of man. He is the ultimate of all evil.

Karl Marx didn't run any countries.  Do you also blame JD Salinger for the murder of John Lennon?

Or Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, Peter, Jude, Paul, James, and whoever wrote Hebrews for the Crusades and Inquisitions?

[The world will shine with light in our nightmare]

It could be argued he is the most evil person ever born. I personally agree with that argument.

No

Did not his philosophy destroy the human spirit? Did it not force individuals into a collective? Did it not put forward the nauseous theories of "state ownership" and the "Labor Theory of Capital?" How many were murdered on the alter of reaching his utopian system? Marx murdered the human spirit and his system degrades the rights of man. He is the ultimate of all evil.

Karl Marx had a pen.  Adolf Hitler had a gas chamber.

Notice the difference.

Hitler wasn't a communist, so use some other evil guy like Mao or Pol Pot or the Kims of North Korea.

That actually supports my argument, because Hitler opposed communism and was clearly not influenced by Marx in any way, shape, or form.

[Deus Naturae]

It could be argued he is the most evil person ever born. I personally agree with that argument.

No

Did not his philosophy destroy the human spirit? Did it not force individuals into a collective? Did it not put forward the nauseous theories of "state ownership" and the "Labor Theory of Capital?" How many were murdered on the alter of reaching his utopian system? Marx murdered the human spirit and his system degrades the rights of man. He is the ultimate of all evil.

Karl Marx had a pen.  Adolf Hitler had a gas chamber.

Notice the difference.

Hitler wasn't a communist, so use some other evil guy like Mao or Pol Pot or the Kims of North Korea.

That actually supports my argument, because Hitler opposed communism and was clearly not influenced by Marx in any way, shape, or form.

Who said that he was?

Obviously, Marx didn't literally murder people. But, I don't see what's so hard to grasp about the concept that events/actions motivated by certain ideals are the fault of those ideals.

[Goldwater]

HP. However, unlike most of the other HP voters, I don't hold him responsible for the actions of communist dictatorships.

[Yeahsayyeah]

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Marx did analyze contemporary capitalism/market economy and the role of classes and the state in it. And came to a conclusion what the working class movement should do to come to abolition of it. He did not actually say much about, how socialism or communism should look like. He was not an utopist at all, some of his selfdescribed followers were. I could make even an argument against Aristotle on such ground. So, where is the point?

And of course, private property of productive means is a main root of inequality and evil in this world.

[Tetro Kornbluth]

Was a better historian than an economist.

Quite so. Though, in fairness, it isn't as though other economists of the time covered themselves in intellectual glory...

Yes but since when have economists ever covered themselves in intellectual glory?

[traininthedistance]

Was a better historian than an economist.

Quite so. Though, in fairness, it isn't as though other economists of the time covered themselves in intellectual glory...

Yes but since when have economists ever covered themselves in intellectual glory?

Eh, I think even you might have good things to say about John Kenneth Galbraith.  Unless you're even more jaded than you let on, of course.

[Ichabod]

The author of suffering and death for millions of people around the world for over a century and a half.  HP (R).

It is arguably that all those people were not Marxists. The economic theory anyway sucks though.

[Tetro Kornbluth]

Was a better historian than an economist.

Quite so. Though, in fairness, it isn't as though other economists of the time covered themselves in intellectual glory...

Yes but since when have economists ever covered themselves in intellectual glory?

Eh, I think even you might have good things to say about John Kenneth Galbraith.  Unless you're even more jaded than you let on, of course.

Well, if you think I'm jaded given my posts, I think you should be glad that I never post drunk.

[All Along The Watchtower]

he opposed civil unions and was probably anti-gun, so HP

[Ichabod]

It could be argued he is the most evil person ever born. I personally agree with that argument.

No

Did not his philosophy destroy the human spirit? Did it not force individuals into a collective? Did it not put forward the nauseous theories of "state ownership" and the "Labor Theory of Capital?" How many were murdered on the alter of reaching his utopian system? Marx murdered the human spirit and his system degrades the rights of man. He is the ultimate of all evil.

Right, "state ownership" is far worse that you have huge inequality rates in the countries (for example, my country) were neoliberal policies take effect .

And the guy could have a very flawed notions about economy, but you shouldn't forget that, in that time, a huge majority of people work about 1/2 of the time or even more.

[Snowstalker Mk. II]

he opposed civil unions and was probably anti-gun, so HP

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[CatoMinor]

An interesting historian for sure, but as for his economic views and predictions for the future...

The fact that he was never part of the proletariat or a capitalist should be enough to make one question his theories.

[Snowstalker Mk. II]

The fact that he was never part of the proletariat or a capitalist should be enough to make one question his theories.

Marx only identified those as the two major classes, not the only two classes.