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« on: February 28, 2014, 10:09:59 PM »

A number of things in this bill I support, and I number I oppose, so I'll have a few amendments. 

Does anyone have any idea how much debt our government holds from developing nations?
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« Reply #1 on: March 05, 2014, 12:21:37 AM »

Aye
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« Reply #2 on: March 06, 2014, 10:37:46 PM »

Regardless of how one may feel about the CIA and its.. dubious...history, slashing our intelligence budget sk significantly will be harmful to our position on the international stage. As the author of the original End to Imperialism Act, I sympathize with the sentiments expressed in this bill but undermining our intelligence capabilities is dangerous. During my Presidency we tore down and reconstructed how this data is processed and we transitioned from a foundation of force to a foundation of intelligence. Therefore, as odd as it may sound, diminishing our intelligence gathering will be a threat to globalnpeace. I encourage this Senate to keep CIA funding at current levels or greater.

Was this reform of the CIA part of a bill or was it a executive action?  What do you think of this bill's paragraph 2?
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« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2014, 12:17:08 AM »

Regardless of how one may feel about the CIA and its.. dubious...history, slashing our intelligence budget sk significantly will be harmful to our position on the international stage. As the author of the original End to Imperialism Act, I sympathize with the sentiments expressed in this bill but undermining our intelligence capabilities is dangerous. During my Presidency we tore down and reconstructed how this data is processed and we transitioned from a foundation of force to a foundation of intelligence. Therefore, as odd as it may sound, diminishing our intelligence gathering will be a threat to global peace. I encourage this Senate to keep CIA funding at current levels or greater.

Was this reform of the CIA part of a bill or was it a executive action?  What do you think of this bill's paragraph 2?

It was executive. I'm not fully supportive of section 2. I think surveillance of high ranking foreign officials is necessary at times and it would be wrong to unilaterally disarm our intelligence gathering. I think if limited to NATO members or something like that, it would be fine, but why shouldn't Iran and Pakistan and other countries have an eye kept on them? No doubt other countries will be doing this to us and ultimately its nonviolent/can be used to prevent conflicts.

I don't think Atlasia needs to diminish its position as a strong nation and global leader by reducing our resources even if we have (rightfully) reduced our militarized presence. I would also oppose leaving NATO and have concerns about allowing strikes potentially during wars. Its a shame debate here is so focused on knee jerk reactions to the Israel clause, I think the NATO issue is much more deserving of our attention and discussion. That said there are many positives here too.

Yes, discussions of Israel tend to overshadow everything else.   
Do you have a link to your executive order on the CIA?  It may be worth codifying here.
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« Reply #4 on: March 10, 2014, 03:44:03 PM »

The objection was actually filed by Senator X.
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« Reply #5 on: March 15, 2014, 12:41:07 AM »

NAY

I don't think this is the right time for this.
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« Reply #6 on: March 26, 2014, 04:12:17 PM »

As for the first section, it won't be of much help to the people who need it if we are forgiving debts of corrupt governments with no strings attached.  Is there any way we can narrow this?
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« Reply #7 on: March 29, 2014, 12:43:40 PM »

For myself, I'm not sure where to go from here, and it may be difficult to find a way to change this enough to something I could support. This could be 9 separate bills, each with a discussion on its own complex issues.
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« Reply #8 on: April 04, 2014, 11:32:58 AM »

Nay
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