SENATE BILL: An Actual End to Imperialism Act (Failed)

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

I thought we agreed to the FP Slot.

Whatever, doesn't matter. We can move it if we need to.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

There is no way I can support such a substantial reduction in our military strength. We can find savings, but we still have an obligation to defend our country and part of that involves a sufficient deterrent whereby we avoid engaging and provoking conflicts, but we certainly have the power to win such if it comes to that.

There are many bad actors in the world, people who seek power, respect only force and are not guided by anything else. I also think it is a mistake to completely abandon regime change efforts. Rather then standing up dictators like in the past though (Iran 1953 or Chile 1973), we should instead move to build up pro-democracy forces through education and possibly humitarian aid supplied covertly for years and thus mapping out of the players before the critical moment approaches as well as building up pro-Atlasian sentiments amongst those who would form a post-Revolution gov't.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Start what?

Also I am not sure about our laws against prosecuting leakers but I have some information about Israel I learned during my presidency that the senate may want to consider before they offer the expected kneejerk reaction...this nation is not a friend or ally.

With all due respect, I don't think we should be basing policy on hearsay.  If you want to testify before the Senate, surely there is some way you can do that.

There was, it was called the National Security Committee. It was abolished last summer.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

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8. Effective upon the passage of this legislation, investment by the Republic of Atlasia or any corporate entity chartered or headquartered in the Republic of Atlasia in the State of Israel is hereby banned.
     8a. Any and all sales of any product to the Israeli armed forces or Israeli police is likewise banned upon the passage of this legislation.
     8b. Atlasian banks may not make loans to Israel or any Israeli institution, effective upon the passage of this legislation.
     8c. Agricultural goods, textiles, meat, steel, iron, uranium, and the products of state-owned companies made in Israel shall be prohibited from entering the Republic of Atlasia and any area in which it has jurisdictional authority, effective upon the passage of this legislation.
9. 8. Effective upon the passage of this legislation, members of the armed forces shall have the right to organize unions and shall be party to all existing and future labor legislation.
10. 9. Effective upon the passage of this legislation, unmanned aerial surveillance drones shall be banned from use by police departments, the armed forces of the Republic of Atlasia, and intelligence agencies in any area subject to the jurisdictional authority of the Republic of Atlasia.
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Sponsor Feedback: Hostile
Status: A vote is now open on the above amendment, Senators please vote Aye, NAy or Abstain.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

AYE

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

What now?

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

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The peace talks seem to be working so far, but I do agree with Senator TNF on the need of a more tough stance on Israel to force a peace settlement. An economic embargo as originally proposed goes too far for me, but I advocated for military restrictions back in January and I stand for that proposal, hence the amendment. Our military aid to Israel is already in a low level, so this serves as a gesture that is (in my opinion) very eloquent (and temporary) while not representing a compete abandonment of Israel as an ally, which is a legitimate concern showed by other Atlasians.

I also have other ideas, but I would like to see what is the Senate's opinion of restrictions on Israel.

Are you formerly offering this at this time or just trial balooning the text (which your last sentence seems to indicate)

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Amendments have to be on the floor formerly for 24 hours before a vote can be started on them, which is tomorrow around six.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

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Status: An objection has been filed by Senator Mr. X. The VP may open a vote on this at any time.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

NAY

This can be ended since there are more nays then ayes. Time expires in a few hours.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Vote on Amendment 59:103 by Lumine

Aye (3): Lumine, Talleyrand, and TNF
Nay (7): bore, DC al Fine, Goldwater, Mr. X, NC Yankee, shua and TyriontheImperialist
Abstain (0):

Didn't Vote (0):

With time having expired, this can be declared has having failed.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

This has been sitting for three days now, what is the story here.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

The original text plus the changes made in this amendment. 


The wind is picking up outside so I have to hurry up and get off soon.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

THe VP may open a vote as long as debate does not resume before he can do so.


as a contingency, I ask unanimous consent to waive the cloture requirment. Senators have 24 hours to object.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

NAY

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

This has enough votes to fail, Senators have 24 hours to change their votes.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Vote on final Passage of the An Actual End to Imperialism (For Real This Time) Act:

Aye (1): TNF
Nay (9): Alfred F. Jones, bore, DC al Fine, Goldwater, Lumine, NC Yankee, shua, Talleyrand, TNF and TyriontheImperialist
Abstain (0):

Didn't Vote (0):

The bill has failed.