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« Reply #125 on: April 13, 2014, 10:08:47 AM »

Clinton Goes on the Attack
AP - Dayton, OH (September 2012)
Coming out of her convention essentially tied with President Giuliani in the polls Senator Hillary Clinton lambasted the Republican nominee for what she called "A failed economic policy". "The policy of trickle down economics, which we saw with Ronald Reagan for twelve years is the same one President Giuliani is trying now and guess what, it's increased our deficit and left the middle class squeezed and without hope of a bright future. I'm here to tell you it doesn't have to be that way Ohio, America can be great again." Her rally in Dayton marks Clinton's eighth trip to Ohio since winning the Democratic nomination. Current polls give President Giuliani a slight lead: 48 percent to Clinton's 46 percent.


Third Times' The Charm
AP - Concord, NH (October 2012)
President Giuliani is hoping to follow in the footsteps of his hero Ronald Reagan win a successful third term as President of the United States. As he readies for his first debate with Hillary Clinton in Denver, polls show a neck and neck race with the New York Senator and former First Lady. Giuliani continues to trumpets his message of continued prosperity and points to the economic growth the country has seen over his nearly 8 years in office. Giuliani attacked Clinton as liberal "in every sense of the word" and that he Presidency would undo all the changes he implemented "to make America strong again". In New Hampshire Giuliani is tied with Clinton: 48 percent to 48 percent.


Game On
AP Denver, CO (October 2012)
Over the course of ninety minutes Hillary Clinton appeared in control as she dominated in the debate with President Rudy Giuliani in Denver. The New York Senator attacked the President who what she called a "weak economy" and the Administration's failure to create any new jobs over the last few years. Clinton also offered a vision of the future, talking about making America energy independent by the end of her first term and balancing the budget. Giuliani, by comparison appeared agitated and disengaged throughout the debate and failed to counter to fireback on any of Clinton's attacks. The polls which showed a relatively tight race before the debate, with a slight Giuliani lead now show a reversal.
Viewers by a large margin found Clinton the winner of the debate, and as of this morning Clinton leads Giuliani by a significant margin for the first time in the race. In the state of Colorado, which has voted Republican the last three times cycles shows a narrow lead for the President.


General Election Poll: GALLUP Clinton +4
Hillary Clinton: 49%
Rudy Giuliani: 45%

General Election Poll: NBC/WALL STREET JOURNAL Clinton +5
Hillary Clinton: 50%
Rudy Giuliani: 45%

Who Won the First Presidential Debate?
Hillary Clinton: 53%
Rudy Giuliani: 31%
Tie: 9%
Undecided: 7%

The Incredibly Shrinking President
AP - Hempstead, NY (October 2012)
The Vice Presidential Debate between Mike Pence and Brian Schweitzer was largely seen as a draw, putting immense pressure on President Giuliani to deliver a solid performance against Hillary Clinton in their town hall style debate. While most pundits agreed Giuliani improved from his bruising in Denver, it was not a knockout. Clinton largely deflected any attacks from Giuliani and focused her message on helping the middle class. Immediately following the debate polls indicated either a draw or slight advantage to Hillary Clinton.
The polls continues to show a close race, but Hillary Clinton continues to hold onto a narrow lead. In the state of New York, the home state of both candidates polls find a tight race. 49 percent for Clinton to 48 percent to Giuliani.


Hurricane Sandy
AP - Seaside Heights, NJ (October 2012)
In the aftermath of Hurricane Sandy, President Giuliani toured the damage and met with relief workers, along with the Governor of New Jersey, Jon Corzine. Giuliani pledged the full support of the United States government to help the people affected by the storm.



In closing days of the campaign, the aftermath of Hurricane Sandy took up most of the news coverage, with the candidates making their cases, crisscrossing the country. The storm, seemed to boost Giuliani's sagging poll numbers, though not by a significant margin. Most polls found Clinton still polling strong against Giuliani and the final election polls showed a deadlocked race. In what most pundits called the fourth closest race since the start of the 21st century, many agreed, unlike the previous where it was at least clear who was the most likely winner by Election Day, by 2012 it was truly too close to call!

Final General Election: Too Close to Call
Rudy Giuliani: 48%
Hillary Clinton: 48%

Dixsville Notch, NH
Rudy Giuliani: 6 (50%)
Hillary Clinton: 6 (50%

Hart's Location, NH
Hillary Clinton: 14 (54%)
Rudy Giuliani: 12 (46%)

New Hampshire: <1%
Hillary Clinton: 52.6%
Rudy Giuliani: 47.4%

ELECTION NIGHT 2012
President Rudy Giuliani: 0 (0%)
Senator Hillary Clinton: 0 (0%)

"Good evening and welcome to CBS' election night coverage. I'm Scott Pelley and we have some projections to make at this hour." -- Scott Pelley

Vermont: <1%
√ Hillary Clinton: 60%
Rudy Giuliani: 39%

South Carolina: <1%
√ Rudy Giuliani: 58%
Hillary Clinton: 41%

Indiana: <1%
√ Rudy Giuliani: 56%
Hillary Clinton: 43%

President Rudy Giuliani: 20 (51%)
Senator Hillary Clinton: 3 (48%)

"An early lead for President Giuliani in the electoral vote, but we are expected to be in for a long night as the polls throughout this campaign, and in the closing days have show a dead even race between Hillary Clinton, and Rudy Giuliani. The states to watch this evening will be the ever important battlegrounds of Ohio and Florida, along with New York. It voted narrowly for the President the last two times, but polls have show a slight lead for Hillary Clinton. If she can take back the state it will be a significant victory, as she looks to reach the magic number of 270 electoral votes." -- Scott Pelley
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« Reply #126 on: April 13, 2014, 10:35:48 AM »

Senator Hillary Clinton: 64 (49.6%)
President Rudy Giuliani: 61 (49.5%)

"There is the electoral map at seven minute after eight o'clock. Many states left to be called." -- Scott Pelley

North Carolina: Too Close to Call
Rudy Giuliani: 50.9%
Hillary Clinton: 48.8%

Virginia: Too Close to Call
Rudy Giuliani: 50.3%
Hillary Clinton: 49.3%

West Virginia: Too Close to Call
Rudy Giuliani: 50%
Hillary Clinton: 50%

Missouri: Too Close to Call
Rudy Giuliani: 50.5%
Hillary Clinton: 48.9%

Georgia: Too Close to Call
Rudy Giuliani: 52%
Hillary Clinton: 47%

Florida: Too Close to Call
Rudy Giuliani: 50.7%
Hillary Clinton: 48.7%

Ohio: Too Close to Call
Rudy Giuliani: 50.3%
Hillary Clinton: 49.0%

Pennsylvania: Too Close to Call
Hillary Clinton: 51.7%
Rudy Giuliani: 48.0%

New Jersey: Too Early to Call
Hillary Clinton: 53%
Rudy Giuliani: 46%

New Hampshire: Too Close to Call
Hillary Clinton: 50.1%
Rudy Giuliani: 49.0%

Maine CD 2: Too Close to Call
Hillary Clinton: 50.9%
Rudy Giuliani: 49.0%

8:30 PM EST

"At this time we cannot project a winner in the state of Arkansas, the former home state of Hillary Clinton. It was not a hotly contested state, but the fact that we are unable to project it now should give some hope to the Clinton campaign.

Arkansas: Too Close to Call
Rudy Giuliani: 51%
Hillary Clinton: 49%

"It does appear now, we can make a major projection. CBS new is calling the state of Pennsylvania for Hillary Clinton."

BREAKING NEWS: CLINTON WINS PENNSYLVANIA

Pennsylvania: 21% Reported
√ Hillary Clinton: 52.0%
Rudy Giuliani: 46.9%

Senator Hillary Clinton: 84 (49.7%)
President Rudy Giuliani: 61 (49.5%)

"The Keystone State's 20 electoral votes now go to Hillary Clinton. A big win for the New York Senator and given the hour this maybe a sign of things to come, we don't know, but Pennsylvania was targeted by both campaigns, John Edwards narrowly won it four years ago, and Al Gore eight years before. It is a swing state, but it stays Democratic again tonight." -- Scott Pelley
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« Reply #127 on: April 13, 2014, 11:21:56 AM »

Go Rudy!
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« Reply #128 on: April 13, 2014, 11:56:57 AM »

Any update if Guiliani won Florida, Virginia, Missouri, etc.,?

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« Reply #129 on: April 13, 2014, 02:14:01 PM »

"...Hillary Clinton will win the state of New Jersey." -- Scott Pelley.

New Jersey:
√ Hillary Clinton: 52%
Rudy Giuliani: 47%

Senator Hillary Clinton: 98 (49%)
President Rudy Giuliani: 77 (49%)

"No major surprises so far tonight. Hillary Clinton is holding onto the Edwards' states from 2008. Everything is going as it was expected. We are now able to project that Rudy Giuliani is our projected winner in the state of North Carolina." -- Scott Pelley

North Carolina: 35% Reported
√ Rudy Giuliani: 51%
Hillary Clinton: 48%

Senator Hillary Clinton: 98 (49.7%)
President Rudy Giuliani: 92 (49.4%)

"An Edwards' state from 2008, but no one expected it to return to the Democrats. Hillary Clinton and her campaign did not heavily contest in that state, so now real surprise with this state returning to the Republicans. Let us look now at the states where we're unable to project a winner yet." -- Scott Pelley

Florida: Too Close to Call
Rudy Giuliani: 50.4%
Hillary Clinton: 48.9%

Ohio: Too Close to Call
Rudy Giuliani: 50.0%
Hillary Clinton: 49.5%

West Virginia: Too Close to Call
Hillary Clinton: 49.7%
Rudy Giuliani: 49.6%

Virginia: Too Close to Call
Rudy Giuliani: 50.4%
Hillary Clinton: 49.0%

9:37 pm EST

President Rudy Giuliani: 157 (49.5%)
Senator Hillary Clinton: 112 (49.6%)

"We are now turning to Dan Rather, commentator for CBS now with a perspective on this election night." -- Scott Pelley

"I think we maybe here all evening. The polls have showed a tight race throughout the entire campaign and even the exit polls today showed a tight race, but huge turnout, possibly the highest turnout we've seen in a long time. Looking at the states, nothing has gone against the conventional wisdom, so if Giuliani is able to hold onto the states he won last time, even without New York he should have a very good night." -- Dan Rather

"CBS news does have a major projection to make. We project the state of Michigan for Hillary Clinton. Michigan goes for Senator Clinton." -- Scott Pelley


Michigan:
√ Hillary Clinton: 52.3%
Rudy Giuliani: 46.7%

"Another Edwards' state remains in the Democratic column. The Democrats are briefing a sigh of relief. They now look to a pickup, so far they've only won New Hampshire so far." -- Scott Pelley

10:35 pm EST

"...and CBS can project the state of Ohio for President Giuliani. Giuliani wins the state of Ohio." -- Scott Pelley

Ohio: 94% Reported
√ Rudy Giuliani: 50.3%
Hillary Clinton: 49.4%

"The battleground state of Ohio stays with the Republicans. Hillary Clinton hoped to swing this state back to the Democrats, but it wasn't enough. This is a big win for the Republican." -- Scott Pelley

11:13

President Rudy Giuliani: 222 (49.5%)
Senator Hillary Clinton: 212 (49.6%)


"...we're back now and here is the state of the electoral map. President Giuliani leads Senator Clinton by ten electoral votes and trails by a narrow margin in the popular vote. All eyes are focused on the important battleground states that still remain to be called. At one point with Ohio going for Giuliani and then Missouri and Colorado there was a sense of growing momentum for the President, but it now almost 11:20 here on the east coast in New York, with Senator Clinton's solid wins in the states of California, Oregon, Washington and Hawaii on the west coast the race is still a tossup.

Nevada is outstanding, Montana, the home state of Vice Presidential nominee Brian Schweitzer, Wisconsin, a three time Republican state since 2000, Iowa, Virginia, which John Edwards carried four years ago and the state of Florida...but it appears now we do have a projection and it is a major one at this time. CBS new is projecting the state of New York for Hillary Clinton." -- Scott Pelley


BREAKING NEWS: CLINTON WINS NEW YORK
CLINTON: 50.9% GIULIANI: 48.9%

"Twenty-nine electoral votes. This is a big win for the New York Senator, her home state, which she has represented since 2001, and also an upset for President Giuliani. He won the state in his '04 and '08 presidential campaigns, but by extremely narrow margins and tonight The Empire State is back in the Democrat's column, won by Hillary Clinton." -- Scott Pelley

Senator Hillary Clinton: 241 (49.7%)
President Rudy Giuliani: 222 (49.5%)
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« Reply #130 on: April 13, 2014, 02:34:07 PM »
« Edited: April 14, 2014, 07:53:49 AM by NHI »

"Here are the results in the states where we have yet to project a winner for the Presidency." -- Scott Pelley

Virginia: Too Close to Call (Difference: 9,561)
Rudy Giuliani: 1,520,111 (50.1%)
Hillary Clinton: 1,510,550 (49.8%)

Nevada: Too Close to Call (Difference: 35,390)
Hillary Clinton: 534,467 (51.7%)
Rudy Giuliani: 499,077 (48.3%)

Montana: Too Close to Call (Difference: 7,556)
Hillary Clinton: 267,000 (50.7%)
Rudy Giuliani: 259,444 (49.3%)

Florida: Too Close to Call (Difference:
Rudy Giuliani: 4,237,756 (50.0%)
Hillary Clinton: 4,163,446 (49.1)

Wisconsin: Too Close to Call
Hillary Clinton: 49.7%
Rudy Giuliani: 49.6%

New Mexico: Too Close to Call
Hillary Clinton: 49.5%
Rudy Giuliani: 49.5%

"CBS New is now ready to project the state of Iowa for Senator Hillary Clinton." -- Scott Pelley

Iowa:
√ Hillary Clinton: 50.9%
Rudy Giuliani: 48.7%

Senator Hillary Clinton: 247 (49.8%)
President Rudy Giuliani: 222 (49.5%)
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« Reply #131 on: April 13, 2014, 09:26:57 PM »

Can't see Giuliani winning this time after this.

Who is Hillary's VP ?

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« Reply #132 on: April 14, 2014, 07:47:28 AM »

Can't see Giuliani winning this time after this.

Who is Hillary's VP ?



Brian Schweitzer.
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« Reply #133 on: April 14, 2014, 08:44:58 AM »


"You are looking at live footage from the Clinton Campaign Headquarters in New York City tonight. Their reaction is expected, given that the Associated Press has called the state of Nevada for Hillary Clinton. CBS is now projecting the state for the Senator." -- Scott Pelley

Nevada:
√ Hillary Clinton: 51.7%
Rudy Giuliani: 48.3%

Senator Hillary Clinton: 253 (49.8%)
President Rudy Giuliani: 222 (49.5%)

"We are coming up close to midnight here on the east coast Hillary Clinton is seventeen electoral votes away from the number of 270, the number needed to become President. As we look at the remaining states any number of them could deliver it for Clinton, we now go live to the Giuliani Campaign Headquarters in Arlington, VA and Campaign Manger Mike DuHaime, Mike as you look at the results tonight and the states left to call how are feeling?" -- Scott Pelley


"We feel good, Scott to answer your question. We knew this would going to be a closer contest and a long night. Looking at the state of Florida and what's left to come in, we're very confident about a win there, the same for Virginia. Those two states get us to 264, from there we expect to win Alaska, that brings us to 267 and from there it's New Mexico, Montana or Wisconsin that puts us over we're very confident about winning at least New Mexico tonight." -- Mike DuHaime

"Well that good feeling must be coming through, because you'll want to hear this: CBS News is projecting Florida for President Giuliani." -- Scott Pelley


Florida:
√ Rudy Giuliani: 50.1%
Hillary Clinton: 49.1%

Senator Hillary Clinton: 253 (49.8%)
President Rudy Giuliani: 251 (49.6%)

"A big and needed win for the Giuliani campaign. They are still in this race for the White House and looking at the electoral map it is painstakingly close. Clinton up by two votes in the electoral colleges and narrowly in the popular vote. This election may still have some surprises left in it. We look now at the numbers in the states of Virginia, Wisconsin and New Mexico." -- Scott Pelley


Virginia: Too Close to Call
Rudy Giuliani: 50.2%
Hillary Clinton: 49.7%

Wisconsin: Too Close to Call (DIFFERENCE: 13,071)
Hillary Clinton: 1,520,985 (50.2%)
Rudy Giuliani: 1,507,914 (49.8%)

New Mexico: Too Close to Call (DIFFERENCE: 1,036)
Hillary Clinton: 408,335 (50.1%)
Rudy Giuliani: 407,299 (49.9%)

"Hillary Clinton is holding onto her narrow lead in the state of Wisconsin. She leads in New Mexico, but it is razor thin, a little over a thousand vote difference. Some states have automatic recount laws that go into effect, none of three states in question have such laws, so if there is to be a recount the campaigns will pursue the effort. And so far, we've heard nothing from either side about dispatching legal teams to the states. All but Virginia was won by Rudy Giuliani three years ago...but it appears now we can project the state of Virginia for President Giuliani." -- Scott Pelley

Virginia:
√ Rudy Giuliani: 50.2%
Hillary Clinton: 49.7%

President Rudy Giuliani: 264 (49.6%)
Senator Hillary Clinton: 253 (49.7%)

"Again the map reshuffles, Giuliani once more in the lead and ten votes shy of reelection. Now as we look at the map the state of Alaska, while the polls have not closed yet, as expected it will most likely go for Rudy Giuliani and in that case he will have 267 electoral votes and -- one moment we have another projection to make. In the state of Montana, home of Governor Brian Schweitzer, the Democratic Vice Presidential candidate, we can project Hillary Clinton is the winner in Montana." -- Scott Pelley

Montana:
√ Hillary Clinton: 50.7%
Rudy Giuliani: 49.2%

"No doubt Brian Schweitzer, a very popular governor in that state helped swing it just enough for Hillary Clinton tonight. Again our map changes, Giuliani still narrowly in the lead. Now as we approach midnight here on the east coast only two states remain to be called. Wisconsin and New Mexico." -- Scott Pelley

President Rudy Giuliani: 264 (49.6%)
Senator Hillary Clinton: 256 (49.7%)

1:01 AM EST

Alaska:
√ Rudy Giuliani: 58%
Hillary Clinton: 41%

President Rudy Giuliani: 267 (49.6%)
Senator Hillary Clinton: 256 (49.7%)


"Just after one am here on the east and Rudy Giuliani is our projected winner in the state of Alaska, which brings his electoral total to 267, three votes shy 270. The states of New Mexico and Wisconsin remain outstanding at this point, but Hillary Clinton continues to hold onto her narrow lead in both battlegrounds. And it now appears CBS new is projecting the state of Wisconsin for Hillary Clinton. She wins Wisconsin and its' ten electoral votes." -- Scott Pelley

√ Hillary Clinton: 50.2%
Rudy Giuliani: 49.5%

President Rudy Giuliani: 267 (49.6%)
Senator Hillary Clinton: 266 (49.7%)

"A big win for the Hillary Clinton. Wisconsin has voted Republican since 2000, but tonight she returns it to the Democratic column. Now all eyes remain on the battleground of New Mexico, the state which will decided whether Rudy Giuliani is reelected to a third term of if Hillary Clinton becomes the first female President of the United States." -- Scott Pelley
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« Reply #134 on: April 14, 2014, 09:01:34 AM »

New Mexico: Too Close to Call (DIFFERENCE: 1,030)
Hillary Clinton: 408,348 (50.1%)
Rudy Giuliani: 407,318 (49.9%)

"Hillary Clinton is maintaining her lead in New Mexico, but it remains too close to call. Now some in the Clinton campaign believe they've won this state and with it the Presidency, but we are hearing no sign of concession from the Giuliani campaign. They may pursue a recount, which if that happens, we will not know for a few days who the winner is in the state and we are left with an election result hanging in the balance." -- Scott Pelley

BREAKING NEWS: AP CALLING NM FOR CLINTON
HILLARY CLINTON ELECTED PRESIDENT

"We are hearing that the Associated Press has projected New Mexico and it's five electoral votes for Hillary Clinton. This is a projection by The Associated Press, now with that they are calling the Presidency for Hillary Clinton. No other network or news outlet has made the call yet. New Mexico is still too close to call. The last thing we want to do is project the state than have to retract our call. No response yet from either campaign about the AP's call for New Mexico, but if it holds then this election is over and... -- Scott Pelley

BREAKING NEWS: CBS PROJECTS HILLARY CLINTON TO WIN PRESIDENCY

"And at this time CBS has a major, frankly historic projection make. We project the state of New Mexico for Hillary Clinton and with it she is now President-Elect of the United States. She has won the election." -- Scott Pelley

√ Senator Hillary Clinton: 271 (49.7%)
President Rudy Giuliani: 267 (49.6%)

"For the first time since Franklin Roosevelt, someone from the same family with occupy with the White House. Hillary Clinton, the former First lady to President Bill Clinton, the Senator from New York is now President-Elect of the United States. She wins this very close election to become the nation's first female President. A historic night for her, her supporters and for the country." -- Scott Pelley

1:45 AM EST

President Giuliani Concedes
AP - November 7, 2012
President Rudy Giuliani graciously conceded to Hillary Clinton after a close race. In what many are now calling the closest election at least since 1960 between Richard Nixon and John F. Kennedy, Giuliani chose not to contest the results, despite some push from many in the Republican Party. Though one state decided the winner in the election, Giuliani accepted the results of the people and as he put it, "accepted the majesty of the Democratic process." He pledged to work with Clinton to ensure a smooth transition and that with the campaign over the time had come for the nation to heal.


Clinton Becomes First Woman President of US
AP - November 7, 2012
President-Elect Hillary Clinton addressed her supporters and the country early Wednesday morning after a close victory over President Rudy Giuliani. Clinton, who rarely talked about the historic significance of her candidacy spoke in her victory speech that, "Tonight has reaffirmed the very fundamental American belief that in this country anything is truly possible." Despite her historic win, Clinton cannot claim a mandate, given the narrowness of her victory and stated that she intended to work with members of both parties to ensure America's future remains prosperous and bright.



2012 Election: 61.6% Turnout
√ Senator Hillary Clinton: 271 (49.5%) (65,330,009)
President Rudy Giuliani: 267 (49.3%) (64,977,909)
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« Reply #135 on: April 14, 2014, 10:32:59 AM »

Your TL is finished?
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« Reply #136 on: April 14, 2014, 02:29:50 PM »

I'm considering an epilogue...or possibly the first term of HRC.
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« Reply #137 on: April 14, 2014, 04:12:52 PM »

I'm considering an epilogue...or possibly the first term of HRC.

Why West Virginia changed its mind? Tongue
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« Reply #138 on: April 14, 2014, 06:57:58 PM »

I'm considering an epilogue...or possibly the first term of HRC.

Why West Virginia changed its mind? Tongue
Combination of HRC and Schweitzer on the ticket and Giuliani's more liberal positions. It's close.
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« Reply #139 on: April 18, 2014, 02:17:20 PM »


Hillary Clinton became the first woman President on the United States on January 20th, 2013. As she took office the US economy fell into a small recession; which had partly been avoided during the final years of the Giuliani Administration. The recession saw a spike in unemployment and President Clinton responded with a economic stimulus, aimed at jump starting the economy. By the summer of 2013 unemployment stood at 7.9 percent, but by the winter of 2014 the economy saw small improvement with GDP up and unemployment slowly dropping.

The priority of the Clinton Administration was healthcare reform, though after the failures of her husband in the 1990s, Clinton was cautious and worked closely with Republicans and Democrats to craft a policy that addressed the rising cost of insurance and created choice in the market place. It was a piece of legislation that agitated many left-leaning Democrats, and some including Majority Leader Nancy Pelosi voted against the legislation. It was passed with the help of Republicans and signed into law by the President.

The 2014 midterms saw a decreased in turnout by many Democrats who felt Hillary Clinton abandoned the liberal agenda, but given the closeness of her victory in 2012, Clinton could hardly claim a mandate. The Democrats retained control of the House of Representatives and the Senate in the midterms, but saw man seats flip over to the Republicans. House: D: 229 - R: 205 Senate: D: 53 R: 47

Heading into her reelection Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders flirted with the idea of challenging Clinton, but decided against and she won the nomination without a fight.

For the Republicans it was a much more divided contest. Conservatives, angered at the eight years of Rudy Giuliani pushed for a conservative in the race and strongly supported the bid of Virginia Senator George Allen, who narrowly won reelection to the Senate in 2012. The establishment rallied around Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney, after Former President Giuliani decided against a rematch with Clinton, though Romney's more liberal positions put in stark contrast to George Allen and he was attacked as a Giuliani clone. Former Vice Presidential Nominee Mike Pence, the one time frontrunner for the nomination chose not to run and endorsed Allen.
Alaska Senator Lisa Murkowski entered the race and split the more moderate vote with Romney, but she did managed to score an important win in the New Hampshire Primary, and became a strong force in the race, especially after George Allen's narrow victory in Iowa.


Clinton, who's approval ratings remained in the low fifties and considering her close victory in 2012, many Republicans believed she could be defeated and many believed the candidacy of Lisa Murkowski would be a great counter the Clinton Candidacy. While Murkowski remained a factor in the race, she could not overcome George Allen's lead in the delegates and he ultimately secured the Republican nomination, but he did tap Murkowski for the number two spot on the ticket. A move seen as uniting both wings of the party.

George Allen: The Republican Nominee
A fragile economy brought down Clinton's approval ratings and America's confidence about the economy and country's future for the first time was in question. George Allen attacked Clinton for her failed record on the economy and for the Democratic Party control of Washington. "It's time for a shakeup in DC and a return to common sense. It's funny how four years ago when a Republican was President the economy was fine, today a Democrat's in office and the economy's tank. Do the math, see the connection!"

√ Senator George Allen: 10,900,400 (57.65%)
Senator Lisa Murkowski: 7,439,000 (39.34%)
Other: 567,444 (3.01%)

CLINTON LOOKS TO MAKE CONTRASTS
Hillary Clinton attacked her Republican opponent as a believer in "Your Own Your Own Mentality. It's us versus them." Her approval ratings remained in the low 50s and by the time of convention she rebounded to 52 percent, still with a weak economy she was vulnerable.

General Election Poll: CLINTON +2
Hillary Clinton: 47%
George Allen: 45%

President Hillary Clinton: 247
Senator George Allen: 228
Tossup: 63

Allen Blasts Clinton for Weak Economy
Shots were fired in the first Presidential Debate between Senator Allen and President Clinton. Allen bashed Clinton for a weak economy, and rebuffed Clinton's claim that the country was recovering. "If this is a recovery, it's the worst one I've ever seen." Viewers largely declared Allen the winner of the first debate and the following day his numbers rose in the polls and Clinton's prospects for reelection looked bleak.

General Election Poll ALLEN +3
George Allen: 48%
Hillary Clinton: 45%

Senator George Allen: 228
President Hillary Clinton: 221
Tossup: 89

Clinton vs. Allen: Too Close to Call
Following two mediocre debate performances Clinton headed into Election Day in what looked like to be another close contest. Some polls gave a lead to Allen, while others predicted a neck-and-neck race. In a race that was expected to be closer than 2012, both campaigns batted down for what expected to be a long and drawn out night.

President Hillary Clinton: 0 (0%)
Senator George Allen: 0 (0%)
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« Reply #140 on: April 18, 2014, 02:46:50 PM »

Senator George Allen: 116 (51%)
President Hillary Clinton: 79 (48%)

"...It is almost nine o'clock here on the east coast and looking at the electoral map, it is Senator Allen in the lead. Still waiting to make projection in the big states like Ohio, where at the moment President Clinton holds a narrow lead." -- Scott Pelley

Ohio: 51% Reported
Hillary Clinton: 50.3%
George Allen: 49.0%

Florida: 39% Reported
George Allen: 50.7%
Hillary Clinton: 49.5%

Pennsylvania: 35% Reported
Hillary Clinton: 51.0%
George Allen: 48.5%

Missouri: 33% Reported
George Allen: 52.9%
Hillary Clinton: 46.8%

New Hampshire: 57% Reported
Hillary Clinton: 50.9%
George Allen: 48.7%

"CBS News can project the state of Missouri will be won by Senator George Allen. Another Republican stronghold and it stays that way tonight." -- Scott Pelley

Senator George Allen: 126 (51%)
President Hillary Clinton: 79 (48%)

9:54 pm EST
Senator George Allen: 192 (50%)
President Hillary Clinton: 148 (49%)

"...and New Hampshire will be won by President Clinton." -- Scott Pelly

New Hampshire: 79% Reported
√ Hillary Clinton: 50.9%
George Allen: 48.1%

"Pennsylvania remains a closely watched battleground as does the bellweather of Ohio. Florida remains in the lean Allen column, but it is too close to call. Looking at the electoral map Senator Allen is arguably in a better position than Hillary Clinton. She needs to win the majority of the battlegrounds especially Ohio, which has not voted for the GOP since Bill Clinton in 1996 and  it appears we have a major projection to make. Hillary Clinton -- will win Pennsylvania." -- Scott Pelley

Pennsylvania: 66% Reported
√ Hillary Clinton: 51.0%
George Allen: 48.5%

Senator George Allen: 192 (50%)
President Hillary Clinton: 168 (49%)
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« Reply #141 on: April 18, 2014, 03:11:09 PM »

President Hillary Clinton: 251 (50%)
Senator George Allen: 251 (49%)

"It is eleven twenty-nine on the east coast and Hillary Clinton and George Allen are deadlocked in the electoral college at this time. Only a handful of battleground states remained uncalled so it is truly down to the wire at this point. The fact is Hillary Clinton needs Ohio, even if she carries Montana Nevada and Iowa, all three states which she won in 2012, she is still four short of the number needed to reelected. We now go live to Major Garrett, live at the Clinton headquarters in New York." -- Scott Pelley"

Live from New York City
Pelley: "What is the general feeling of the Clinton campaign at this hour?"

Garrett:"Certainly everyone here is on pins and needles. The Clinton campaign all remembers four years ago when she narrowly defeated Rudy Giuliani. Of course, it was much later in the evening. Certainly, tonight they see the map and they realize Ohio is the entire race."

Pelley:"Standby for a moment Major, we have a projection to make and it is an important one. CBS News can now project Hillary Clinton is the winner in the state of Ohio."

Ohio: 90% Reported
√ Hillary Clinton: 51%
George Allen: 49%

President Hillary Clinton: 269 (50%)
Senator George Allen: 251 (49%)

BREAKING NEWS: CLINTON WINS OHIO

"Hillary Clinton now stands with 269 electoral votes, now at this time no candidate has crossed the threshold needed to be elected, there are three states left to call." -- Scott Pelley

BREAKING NEWS: HILLARY CLINTON REELECTED PRESIDENT

"CBS News can now make a major projection, and I can see the response already from the Clinton campaign. Hillary Clinton will win the state of Iowa and has been reelected President of the United States." -- Scott Pelley

√ President Hillary Clinton: 275 (50%)
Senator George Allen: 251 (49%)

"A close contest, but President Clinton has been reelected and Senator Allen come up short in this Presidential Election. Hillary Clinton already surpassing her electoral victory from four years ago, she has 275 electoral votes, five over the 270 needed to be elected." -- Scott Pelley

George Allen concedes to President Hillary Clinton after a closely fought contest. Her coattails, however did not deliver Democrats control of Congress. Republicans won back both the House and Senate, establishing divided government. In her victory speech Clinton sounded a much more victorious note than she did four years earlier. Still, Clinton pledged to continue working with fellow Democrats and Republicans. "There is much more that unites us, but divides us."

√ President Hillary Clinton: 281 (50.5%)
Senator George Allen: 257 (48.4%)
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« Reply #142 on: April 19, 2014, 07:39:49 AM »
« Edited: April 19, 2014, 07:41:51 AM by NHI »

Epilogue


Hillary Clinton's second term was a better than her first. The economy recovered considerably and by the 2020 Clinton's approval rating stood at a record high of 61 percent. She toyed with and ultimately ran for the Democratic nomination again and successfully won a third term, defeating Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal, who ran a lackluster campaign, coupled with multiple gaffes on the stump and a horrendous debate performances. Vice President Brian Schweitzer finished out the second term, but did not serve a third with Clinton, opting to retire and was replaced by Kentucky Senator Allison Grimes.

√ President Hillary Clinton: 378 (53.8%)
Governor Bobby Jindal: 160 (44.7%)

Clinton rounded out her third term in 2025 with her approval rating at 55 percent. She was credited with a strong economy and relative peace in the world. During Clinton's time she saw a wide down of the War inf Afghanistan and the signing of an immigration reform bill. She was regarded as a successful President, even more so than her husband, with many saying she won the third term Bill Clinton always desired and by serving for twelve years she completed the Clinton legacy. Already the second oldest President in history, at the age of 77 Clinton decided against running for a fourth term, though deep down many believed she regretted the decision.

In 2024 Republicans won back control of the White House in a narrow contest between Governor Marco Rubio  of Florida and Vice President Allison Grimes.


√ Gov. Marco Rubio: 274 (49.4%)
Vice President Allison Grimes: 264 (49.3%)
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« Reply #143 on: April 19, 2014, 07:49:54 AM »

Presidents of the United States: (Since 1933)
32. Franklin D. Roosevelt (D-NY) 1933-1945
33. Harry S. Truman (D-MO) 1945-1953
34. Dwight D. Eisenhower (R-NY) 1953-1961
35. John F. Kennedy (D-MA) 1961-1963
36. Lyndon B. Johnson (D-TX) 1963-1969
37. Richard M. Nixon (R-NY) 1969-1974
38. Gerald R. Ford (R-MI) 1974-1977
39. Jimmy Carter (D-GA) 1977-1981
40. Ronald Reagan (R-CA) 1981-1993
41. William Jefferson Clinton (D-AR) 1933-2001
42. Albert Gore, Jr (D-TN) 2001-2005
43. Rudolph Giuliani (R-NY) 2005-2013
44. Hillary R. Clinton (D-NY) 2013-2025*
45. Marco Rubio (R-FL) 2025-2033
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