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Tender Branson
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« on: March 02, 2014, 03:09:33 AM »

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The whole report:

http://hiik.de/en/downloads/data/downloads_2013/ConflictBarometer2013.pdf
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« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2014, 03:46:04 AM »

Interesting. Uruguay, Uganda, Bhutan and the UK especially all stand out.
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« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2014, 06:18:11 AM »
« Edited: March 02, 2014, 06:20:36 AM by Mynheer Peeperkorn »



Uruguay Smiley Costa Rica Smiley
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« Reply #3 on: March 02, 2014, 10:37:39 AM »

The UK seems to only be in there for Ulster, but what happened in Ulster that can be characterized as a violent crisis last year ?

Also, Mexico stands out : war, really ? As in Syria, Centrafrica or Sudan ?
And the subnational level isn't any better, even if plain war seems to be localized only in one state (Tabasco ?), but three more have limited war and countless other with violent crises. Is it only War on drugs and cartels or something more ?
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« Reply #4 on: March 02, 2014, 11:22:07 AM »

Also, Mexico stands out : war, really ? As in Syria, Centrafrica or Sudan ?
And the subnational level isn't any better, even if plain war seems to be localized only in one state (Tabasco ?), but three more have limited war and countless other with violent crises. Is it only War on drugs and cartels or something more ?

That's Michoacán, which has seen tense fighting between the Knights Templar drug cartel, local armed vigilante groups taking 'self-defense' against the cartels into their own hands and, recently, federal troops/police 'invading' a quasi-war zone in the south of the state to regain authority. Apparently the feds and vigilantes signed a deal at the end of January, in which the vigilantes are going to become police officers.

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http://www.adnpolitico.com/gobierno/2014/01/13/el-gobierno-federal-pone-un-alto-a-autodefensas-en-michoacan
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jan/14/mexico-sends-forces-to-michoacn
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/01/16/mexican-government-faces-vigilante-groups-cartel-in-lawless-violent-michoacan/
http://www.forbes.com/sites/nathanielparishflannery/2014/01/30/mexico-media-roundup-a-month-of-vigilantes-and-violence-in-michoacan/
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jan/14/michoacan-tense-clashes-mexican-troops-vigilantes
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« Reply #5 on: March 02, 2014, 12:13:08 PM »

The civil war in Northern Ireland ended in 1998...
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Tender Branson
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« Reply #6 on: March 02, 2014, 01:03:04 PM »

The UK seems to only be in there for Ulster, but what happened in Ulster that can be characterized as a violent crisis last year ?

The civil war in Northern Ireland ended in 1998...

It's in the report (excerpts, because Inks would report me if I posted more of it ... Tongue):

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« Reply #7 on: March 02, 2014, 01:45:06 PM »

A violent protest is not a civil war.
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« Reply #8 on: March 02, 2014, 01:46:58 PM »
« Edited: March 02, 2014, 04:31:59 PM by ObserverIE »

The civil war in Northern Ireland ended in 1998...

Well, there is #fleggate, the various Republican dead-ender micro-groups are still floating around, and there are occasional outbreaks of feuding within and between the UDA and UVF,
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Tender Branson
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« Reply #9 on: March 02, 2014, 01:55:04 PM »


This report is more about a broad range of political conflicts, not exclusively about wars or civil wars, which the map also shows.

I think they still included Northern Ireland in their report, because it's not yet fully peaceful there (look at my excerpt just above), like for example in South Tyrol these days - despite having an actual political "peace agreement" in place. If for example South Tyrol would also have political protests still, they would likely include it in their report as well and so on ...
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« Reply #10 on: March 02, 2014, 01:56:13 PM »

The civil war in Northern Ireland ended in 1998...

Well, there is #fleggate, the various Republican dead-ender micro-groups are stil floating around, and there are occasional outbreaks of feuding within and between the UDA and UVF,

Yeah but on that sort of basis you can colour in quite a few other European countries as well...
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Tender Branson
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« Reply #11 on: March 02, 2014, 01:58:23 PM »

The civil war in Northern Ireland ended in 1998...

Well, there is #fleggate, the various Republican dead-ender micro-groups are stil floating around, and there are occasional outbreaks of feuding within and between the UDA and UVF,

Yeah but on that sort of basis you can colour in quite a few other European countries as well...

Well, you might send a feedback e-mail to the experts at the University of Heidelberg then ... Wink
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« Reply #12 on: March 02, 2014, 02:03:24 PM »

I've just read a bit into the "Europe" section and it seems that the NI conflict is rated a "3" (violent crisis), while for example Spain (Catalan nationalists Catalonia) is rated a "1" (dispute), the same level like United Kingdom (SNP/Scotland) ...

I think the violent protests in NI last year pushed it up on the levels, but could easily move back to level 1 this year ...
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« Reply #13 on: March 02, 2014, 05:15:32 PM »
« Edited: March 02, 2014, 05:22:05 PM by PASOK Leader Hashemite »

The classification of many protests which sometimes may turn a bit rowdy and tense as 'violent conflicts' strikes me as particularly objectionable. Considering a lot of the separatist/autonomist movements in Europe (SNP, Lega Nord!) as constituting some kind of conflict is just silly.

Also, every South African province except NC, NW and MP being in a 'violent crisis'? Seriously? Especially since the only conflicts they list in SA are xenophobic riots (which can't be considered as constituting a 'violent crisis' even if things do get nasty and heated from time to time) and ANC/IFP/NFP battles in KZN (in 2014? Really?). Talking of holdovers from days past, the Red Brigades are still listed as a conflict in Italy...
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« Reply #14 on: March 02, 2014, 06:02:52 PM »

Did these guys make that barometer back in 2005 and 2006 ? How did they rate Villiers-le-Bel's "riots" and anti-CPE protests in France ? If foreign coverage of these events is any indication, it must have been at least limited war... Tongue
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« Reply #15 on: March 03, 2014, 04:53:50 AM »

Is NZ so peaceful it's as white as the ocean, or...?
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« Reply #16 on: March 03, 2014, 05:51:36 AM »

Is NZ so peaceful it's as white as the ocean, or...?
Yes. Eastern Kamchatka and Alaska also don't exist.
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« Reply #17 on: March 03, 2014, 10:15:04 AM »

Is NZ so peaceful it's as white as the ocean, or...?
Yes. Eastern Kamchatka and Alaska also don't exist.
The chopping of the map was done intentionally to hide the ongoing violent occupation of the Kingdom of Hawaii.
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« Reply #18 on: March 05, 2014, 09:23:06 AM »

This map is disgusting Moroccan propaganda.
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