Opinion of Andrew Cuomo

[windjammer]

What on earth is this? Am I considered some kind of closeted right-winger, moderate hero or neoliberal or something now? I've been called lots of things by all kinds of people, but I think this is a new one. Tell me more.

A social liberal? Are you serious? You don't know what is it?

No, thank you, I'm not retarded. But what the fock does 'DINO socially liberal democrat' even mean?

There are 2 types of DINOS:
-the social liberals
-and the social conservatives

That's cool mate, but, again, what on earth is a 'DINO social liberal', and why are oakvale and I considered 'DINO social liberals'?

Because in my last post, I wanted to separate the "social liberals" and the "social conservatives". Both Begich and Donnelly are DINOS, but they are completely opposite politically. Begich is much more "moderate economically and socially left", and Donnelly "moderate socially and economically left". There is 2 types of DINO. And people like you and oakvale, are definitely "social liberal" and would probably  vote be politically like Cuomo etc because you are socially left and economically moderate.  It's not an insult.

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Thank you Cathcon!

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Well I'm not 'economically moderate' or whatever, but ok.

[IceSpear]

To be fair, not only is Cuomo very right wing on economics, but he has backstabbed his own party many times by helping NY Republicans.

[traininthedistance]

Mega HP.  Familiarity breeds contempt.

FF (I/O).

Everything you think Hillary Clinton is, Andrew Cuomo actually is, ten times more.

He is an obvious HP for reasons entirely separate from his center-right labor and tax policies.  In particular, I am thinking of the deep d**king-over he gave the State Senate, and representative democracy in general, during redistricting; as well as his deeply imperious, shortsighted, destructive and entirely Robert Moses- esque attitude towards infrastructure and transit.  Among other related things.

[Vega]

I like his son more, also.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Yeah, Oakvale liking Cuomo is just wrong. I hope he's just being facetious...

[bedstuy]

Mega HP.  Familiarity breeds contempt.

FF (I/O).

Everything you think Hillary Clinton is, Andrew Cuomo actually is, ten times more.

He is an obvious HP for reasons entirely separate from his center-right labor and tax policies.  In particular, I am thinking of the deep d**king-over he gave the State Senate, and representative democracy in general, during redistricting; as well as his deeply imperious, shortsighted, destructive and entirely Robert Moses- esque attitude towards infrastructure and transit.  Among other related things.

Precisely.  And regardless of the policy he actually implements, it seems like his only goal is his own political convenience.  Actually having values and a vision for improving New York would complicate his bargaining position so he just sits in the middle on everything and makes the easiest compromise.  9 times out of 10 that means rewarding moderate to conservative middle class voting blocs and screwing over urban poor people.  I would have more respect for him if he was honestly a moderate.  I think he's just a manipulative, self-aggrandizing empty suit. 

[windjammer]

And fortunately, Clinton will avoid an Andrew Cuomo candidacy

[PiMp DaDdy FitzGerald]

And fortunately, Clinton will avoid an Andrew Cuomo candidacy

Clinton/Cuomo 2016

[SWE]

And fortunately, Clinton will avoid an Andrew Cuomo candidacy

Clinton/Cuomo 2016

Thankfully that wouldn't be constitutional

[The world will shine with light in our nightmare]

And fortunately, Clinton will avoid an Andrew Cuomo candidacy

Clinton/Cuomo 2016

Thankfully that wouldn't be constitutional

I think Hillary could register citizenship in Arkansas or somewhere and it would be constitutional.  I don't think she'd get a lot of lip for it because it's kind of a dumb requirement, but I don't think Cuomo is on her short list, either.

[Napoleon]

And fortunately, Clinton will avoid an Andrew Cuomo candidacy

Clinton/Cuomo 2016

Thankfully that wouldn't be constitutional

Not if she runs from her home state.

[windjammer]

But they won't probably choose Cuomo as her VP. She has no interest to do so!

[PiMp DaDdy FitzGerald]

But they won't probably choose Cuomo as her VP. She has no interest to do so!

A Clinton doubled down in 1992,  a Clinton can double down in 2016.

[Napoleon]

Rockefeller Republicans were rich racist white people that knew that giving black people rights but keeping them poor and out of the suburbs would preserve their America. Cuomo is not a Rockefeller Republican (nor are most of the republicans that identify that way recently).

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

Rockefeller Republicans were rich racist white people that knew that giving black people rights but keeping them poor and out of the suburbs would preserve their America. Cuomo is not a Rockefeller Republican (nor are most of the republicans that identify that way recently).

Why do you make that assertion?  If it is about the drug laws, those were supported by prominent blacks such as Charlie Rangel and were expanded by Mario Cuomo.

[Phony Moderate]

His record and his policies are quite akin to those of David Cameron. So HP.

[Marokai Backbeat]

There's a lot that he's done that I can't imagine why anyone left of center would proudly try to defend him except to be a contrarian, but the Atlas forum has those aplenty.

[greenforest32]

http://www.salon.com/2014/03/05/why_does_andrew_cuomo_seem_to_get_along_better_with_chris_christie_than_with_bill_de_blasio/

[CatoMinor]

Literally one of the best Governors in America, purely for his ability to piss off the True Leftists.

[Napoleon]

Rockefeller Republicans were rich racist white people that knew that giving black people rights but keeping them poor and out of the suburbs would preserve their America. Cuomo is not a Rockefeller Republican (nor are most of the republicans that identify that way recently).

Why do you make that assertion?  If it is about the drug laws, those were supported by prominent blacks such as Charlie Rangel and were expanded by Mario Cuomo.

I'm not sure Charlie Rangel is someone I offer a lot of respect to but Mario Cuomo tried to repeal portions of the laws. He did build more prisons to follow the law, but that was at the height of the drug war when even his opposition to the death penalty was controversial. Destroying black neighborhoods to build public housing projects and using stop and frisk style tactics on minorities are among his wrongs in my eyes.

[henster]

NY was a mess before Cuomo with constant budget impasses and record deficits, high unemployment, corruption etc. it was an embarrassment with Spitzer, Paterson. While you may not like Cuomo the state is not a laughing stock like it was a few years ago the budget is balanced, economy on the mend, taxes dropping the government works smoothly with no ugly battles between parties. He's a very effective Governor.

[Zioneer]

NY was a mess before Cuomo with constant budget impasses and record deficits, high unemployment, corruption etc. it was an embarrassment with Spitzer, Paterson. While you may not like Cuomo the state is not a laughing stock like it was a few years ago the budget is balanced, economy on the mend, taxes dropping the government works smoothly with no ugly battles between parties. He's a very effective Governor.

And he could've done that with a Democratic legislature.

[windjammer]

Literally one of the best Governors in America, purely for his ability to piss off the True Leftists.

Oh please, he's not only hated by the true lefists.

[The world will shine with light in our nightmare]

NY was a mess before Cuomo with constant budget impasses and record deficits, high unemployment, corruption etc. it was an embarrassment with Spitzer, Paterson. While you may not like Cuomo the state is not a laughing stock like it was a few years ago the budget is balanced, economy on the mend, taxes dropping the government works smoothly with no ugly battles between parties. He's a very effective Governor.

And he could've done that with a Democratic legislature.

That's probably true, though I'd argue that Cuomo's term has been much better than those of his last two predecessors, Democratic legislature or not.  I'm assuming that Cuomo's relationship with Democratic leaders in the legislature is positive, in which case he would have gotten his agenda passed anyway.