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Question: If President Obama is somehow impeached and removed from office, which elements or issues are to blame?
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Overuse of executive powers		  
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Himself		  
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Republicans in Congress		  
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Being "supposedly born" in Kenya		  
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« Reply #25 on: June 24, 2014, 11:32:47 PM »
teh JOOS
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« Reply #26 on: June 25, 2014, 03:29:19 AM »
Most pointless question ever? Most pointless question ever.
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« Reply #27 on: June 26, 2014, 03:46:18 AM »

You sure?
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« Reply #28 on: June 27, 2014, 02:53:05 PM »
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franklin_Pierce
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Buchanan
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Johnson
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woodrow_Wilson
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_G._Harding
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbert_Hoover
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyndon_B._Johnson
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Nixon
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Carter
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« Reply #29 on: June 29, 2014, 03:03:48 AM »
Himself but this is very unrealistic.
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« Reply #30 on: July 02, 2014, 11:22:15 PM »
Quote from: DeadPrez on July 01, 2014, 09:20:06 PM
None of these people are even close to being the worst presidents ever. Especially Harding.

I admit that Harding and Carter might be stretches, but surely Buchanan and Pierce are worse than Obama.
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« Reply #31 on: July 04, 2014, 06:37:11 PM »
Quote from: DeadPrez on July 04, 2014, 05:31:56 PM
Quote from: Senator Goldwater on July 02, 2014, 11:22:15 PM
Quote from: DeadPrez on July 01, 2014, 09:20:06 PM
None of these people are even close to being the worst presidents ever. Especially Harding.

I admit that Harding and Carter might be stretches, but surely Buchanan and Pierce are worse than Obama.
Funded rebels
Kept war in the middle east intentionally
NDAA
Extensions to Patriot Act
Obamacare


all make him much worse than any of the people you listed. Including Pierce and Buchanan who weren't that bad.

"Including Pierce and Buchanan who weren't that bad"
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« Reply #32 on: July 05, 2014, 04:23:59 PM »
Quote from: DeadPrez on July 04, 2014, 05:31:56 PM
Quote from: Senator Goldwater on July 02, 2014, 11:22:15 PM
Quote from: DeadPrez on July 01, 2014, 09:20:06 PM
None of these people are even close to being the worst presidents ever. Especially Harding.

I admit that Harding and Carter might be stretches, but surely Buchanan and Pierce are worse than Obama.
Funded rebels
Kept war in the middle east intentionally
NDAA
Extensions to Patriot Act
Obamacare


all make him much worse than any of the people you listed. Including Pierce and Buchanan who weren't that bad.

So in other words one bungled health care reform and four things that literally every President would have done and has done since the US was funded; and that makes you worse than a massively corrupt guy who apologised for slavery by screwing around with Dredd Scott case, almost broke up the union (e.g. Marill Tariff); and effed up on numerous occasions (Star of the West, the Utah War, etc.)?
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« Reply #33 on: July 05, 2014, 05:30:21 PM »
Wake me up when Obama starts a new civil war, k?
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« Reply #34 on: July 05, 2014, 06:40:54 PM »
Quote from: DeadPrez on July 05, 2014, 04:51:57 PM
Did they ever fund terrorists and help them while also helping their enemies?

Yes, in fact. Pierce supported the Confederacy.
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« Reply #35 on: July 05, 2014, 09:53:26 PM »
Yawn. The conservabots always anoint the current Democratic president as the worst president ever. In a few years Hillary will be the worst president ever.
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« Reply #36 on: July 06, 2014, 12:50:46 AM »

As long as Ronald Reagan is the favorite president of the American right, that's dangerous waters to criticize Obama on.
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« Reply #37 on: July 06, 2014, 04:06:04 PM »
Quote from: Harry on July 05, 2014, 09:53:26 PM
Yawn. The conservabots always anoint the current Democratic president as the worst president ever. In a few years Hillary will be the worst president ever.
I'm sure when Hillary is president we'll hear from Republicans about how great we had it under that moderate Obama
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« Reply #38 on: July 22, 2014, 04:49:32 PM »
Quote from: True Federalist on March 05, 2014, 03:25:18 PM
Not going to happen unless Obama does something that actually merits it, and I can't see that happening.

Which he has.
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« Reply #39 on: July 22, 2014, 05:02:27 PM »
Quote from: TheHawk on July 22, 2014, 04:49:32 PM
Quote from: True Federalist on March 05, 2014, 03:25:18 PM
Not going to happen unless Obama does something that actually merits it, and I can't see that happening.

Which he has.

Please elaborate on what criminal (High Crimes, indeed!) activity the administration has carried out.
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« Reply #40 on: July 22, 2014, 09:45:09 PM »
Quote from: The Mikado on July 22, 2014, 05:02:27 PM
Quote from: TheHawk on July 22, 2014, 04:49:32 PM
Quote from: True Federalist on March 05, 2014, 03:25:18 PM
Not going to happen unless Obama does something that actually merits it, and I can't see that happening.

Which he has.

Please elaborate on what criminal (High Crimes, indeed!) activity the administration has carried out.

http://www.redflagnews.com/opinion/obamas-impeachable-offenses-updated-by-michael-connelly-jd-carrollton-tx
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« Reply #41 on: July 23, 2014, 02:07:19 PM »
Most of these are legitimate uses of executive power that every president since Franklin Roosevelt have done a variation of (giving instructions on how to enforce/not enforce laws, appointing bureaucrats who aren't confirmed by the Senate) that the Supreme Court has never had a problem with.

#2 is interesting because the ACA was upheld by the Supreme Court as a constitutional piece of legislation, and even if it wasn't, all that would have happened was that the law would have been overturned.  Passing unconstitutional legislation has never been a crime on the part of Congress or the Administration, ever.

The government not defending laws in the courts is also not a new thing, re #9.

The USA is bound by treaty with NATO to participate in NATO military actions, and Congress approved the North Atlantic Treaty back in 1949.  When NATO decided to intervene in Libya, Congress had de facto already consented by virtue of ratifying the North Atlantic Treaty in 1949.  Maybe Connelly should start advocating for the USA's withdrawal from NATO if he feels this strongly about this.  Also, compare with the 1998 intervention in Serbia.

"   12. Last but not the least of my dirty dozen of impeachable offenses, is the fact that since taking office the President has used executive orders, laws pushed through Congress in the dark of night, and administrative actions by his departments to nationalize and control automobile manufacturers, banks, insurance companies, and portions of the healthcare industry. "

Um...the USA has owned companies since literally day one (the US Postal Service comes to mind) and it has never been illegal or even unusual for the government to own significant stakes in companies.
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« Reply #42 on: July 23, 2014, 02:09:21 PM »
How Obama manages to annoy the libertarians just how he's aFF
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« Reply #43 on: July 24, 2014, 10:47:47 PM »
His bailouts for big corporations.
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« Reply #44 on: July 25, 2014, 09:52:38 AM »
That roaring bigot didn't support gay marriage as late as 2012! We can't be tolerant of this intolerance!

Start the impeachment trials. If he least resigns and publicly apologizes we might not have to move on to treason charges.
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« Reply #45 on: August 22, 2014, 12:58:35 AM »
Im not a fan of Obama at all, I think he is the 2nd worst president since WWII, but impeaching the president would be stupid and would hurt the country. I think most Republican congressmen agree, it's not going to happen, unless the teabaggers get their hands all over it.
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