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« Reply #50 on: March 18, 2014, 05:26:50 PM »

I think Republicans could get around 30% of the black vote if they look seriously at some issues.

What issues? The Republican Party cannot appeal to black voters because its positions are harmful to the black community.
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« Reply #51 on: March 18, 2014, 05:29:17 PM »

I think Republicans could get around 30% of the black vote if they look seriously at some issues.

What issues? The Republican Party cannot appeal to black voters because its positions are harmful to the black community.

And not just  poor "inner-city" members of the black community, either.
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« Reply #52 on: March 18, 2014, 06:05:46 PM »
« Edited: March 19, 2014, 08:31:32 PM by Alfred F. Jones »

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« Reply #53 on: March 18, 2014, 06:47:09 PM »

Democrats are the party of hand outs and freebies, which lead to votes.  It's hard to break that cycle of government dependency and urban welfare.
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« Reply #54 on: March 18, 2014, 07:09:41 PM »

Democrats are the party of hand outs and freebies, which lead to votes.  It's hard to break that cycle of government dependency and urban welfare.
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« Reply #55 on: March 18, 2014, 08:33:06 PM »

I think Republicans could get around 30% of the black vote if they look seriously at some issues.

And continue doing that for about 20 years. Then, may be.
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« Reply #56 on: March 18, 2014, 11:41:56 PM »

Democrats are the party of hand outs and freebies, which lead to votes.  It's hard to break that cycle of government dependency and urban welfare.

Another example why the right will never get it when it comes to minorities...........
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« Reply #57 on: March 19, 2014, 05:31:32 PM »

No, the best shot would be Tim Scott, and he ain't running.
Maybe Mia Love in 2024.

pretty much. Charles Payne and Larry Elder aren't as awful as some of the others but they wouldn't generate any support among African-Americans.
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« Reply #58 on: March 21, 2014, 12:02:16 AM »

To Democrats being black isn't authentic unless you're a liberal. Think about it this way. If Obama was a Republican we'd never hear the end of how he's really only half black which most Democrats on this forum are likely ignorant to.
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« Reply #59 on: March 21, 2014, 12:44:38 AM »

That's pretty dumb to say considering Obama's speech at the 2004 convention explicitly pointed out he was half-black in reference to America's cultural melting pot and that his mother was a white woman from Kansas. He even says in his memoir he was raised by his mother and her family and later set out to find his father's side of the family.

It's not the fact of being liberal or conservative or being half-black or whatever. The real issue that conservatives are ignoring is that Republicans just don't have qualified black Republican politicians who are willing to run for President, who also aren't stupid or crazy. Random television personalities and Tea Party activists just won't cut it, that's setting the bar way too low. Their best chance was Colin Powell in 1996 or 2000.

There probably won't be a black Republican President for quite some time either. The GOP would probably be better off trying to recapture the Latino vote that they held a significant chunk of during the Bush years and pushing for the first Republican Latino president because in that area they do have a number of qualified candidates including Susana Martinez and Brian Sandoval. Maybe even George P. Bush, twenty years from now.
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« Reply #60 on: March 21, 2014, 10:29:37 AM »

To Democrats being black isn't authentic unless you're a liberal. Think about it this way. If Obama was a Republican we'd never hear the end of how he's really only half black which most Democrats on this forum are likely ignorant to.
Yeah it's expected.
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« Reply #61 on: March 21, 2014, 12:15:43 PM »

That's pretty dumb to say considering Obama's speech at the 2004 convention explicitly pointed out he was half-black in reference to America's cultural melting pot and that his mother was a white woman from Kansas. He even says in his memoir he was raised by his mother and her family and later set out to find his father's side of the family.

It's not the fact of being liberal or conservative or being half-black or whatever. The real issue that conservatives are ignoring is that Republicans just don't have qualified black Republican politicians who are willing to run for President, who also aren't stupid or crazy. Random television personalities and Tea Party activists just won't cut it, that's setting the bar way too low. Their best chance was Colin Powell in 1996 or 2000.

There probably won't be a black Republican President for quite some time either. The GOP would probably be better off trying to recapture the Latino vote that they held a significant chunk of during the Bush years and pushing for the first Republican Latino president because in that area they do have a number of qualified candidates including Susana Martinez and Brian Sandoval. Maybe even George P. Bush, twenty years from now.

After that it was Michael Steele but they did everything they could to marginalize him.
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« Reply #62 on: March 21, 2014, 01:22:06 PM »

That's pretty dumb to say considering Obama's speech at the 2004 convention explicitly pointed out he was half-black in reference to America's cultural melting pot and that his mother was a white woman from Kansas. He even says in his memoir he was raised by his mother and her family and later set out to find his father's side of the family.

It's not the fact of being liberal or conservative or being half-black or whatever. The real issue that conservatives are ignoring is that Republicans just don't have qualified black Republican politicians who are willing to run for President, who also aren't stupid or crazy. Random television personalities and Tea Party activists just won't cut it, that's setting the bar way too low. Their best chance was Colin Powell in 1996 or 2000.

There probably won't be a black Republican President for quite some time either. The GOP would probably be better off trying to recapture the Latino vote that they held a significant chunk of during the Bush years and pushing for the first Republican Latino president because in that area they do have a number of qualified candidates including Susana Martinez and Brian Sandoval. Maybe even George P. Bush, twenty years from now.

After that it was Michael Steele but they did everything they could to marginalize him.
Steele would say things out of the norm though at times. Sometimes his rhetoric would be good sometimes it would be like did he just really say that? He would bring us wins but financially as well the RNC was  in poor shape when he left.
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« Reply #63 on: March 21, 2014, 09:47:04 PM »

That's pretty dumb to say considering Obama's speech at the 2004 convention explicitly pointed out he was half-black in reference to America's cultural melting pot and that his mother was a white woman from Kansas. He even says in his memoir he was raised by his mother and her family and later set out to find his father's side of the family.

It's not the fact of being liberal or conservative or being half-black or whatever. The real issue that conservatives are ignoring is that Republicans just don't have qualified black Republican politicians who are willing to run for President, who also aren't stupid or crazy. Random television personalities and Tea Party activists just won't cut it, that's setting the bar way too low. Their best chance was Colin Powell in 1996 or 2000.

There probably won't be a black Republican President for quite some time either. The GOP would probably be better off trying to recapture the Latino vote that they held a significant chunk of during the Bush years and pushing for the first Republican Latino president because in that area they do have a number of qualified candidates including Susana Martinez and Brian Sandoval. Maybe even George P. Bush, twenty years from now.

Do you really think many Democrats watched or even remember his 2004 speech? I'm willing to bet most of his base is clueless about his history or background. Again the way it's looked at is how much will they do for the black community and Republicans just don't know how to talk about that in ways that make sense to people. I should run for president because I'd be able to reach out to them. That is until the media exaggerated a story into a scandal because I'm a Republican. I better not give my dog a bath outside.
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