Would any of these black conservatives appeal to black voters if they ran in '16

[Mordecai]

Lol what a bunch of clowns.

The two best black Republicans that could have run for President were ruined by the Bush administration, have spoken favorably of Obama and are uninterested in the Presidency anyway.

[Mordecai]

How about conservatives advocate for sane and qualified black Republicans instead of random political pundits and Tea Party activists?

That crowd rightly should be laughed off. If Democrats seriously suggested someone like Al Sharpton or Cynthia McKinney for President they would be ridiculed by conservatives. But Republicans have their standards so low that they think any black conservative will do.

I don't take the "Condi Rice 2016" crowd too seriously but she's much more respectable and qualified than the crazy people like Alan Keyes or the stupid people like Herman Cain.

In that regard, Ted Cruz could have been a perfect Republican Latino mirror of Obama (highly qualified, he's an alumnus of both Princeton and Harvard, clerked for Rehnquist, was Texas Solicitor General and is a U.S. Senator) if he wasn't so egocentric.

[Mordecai]

Believe it or not, Blacks do not vote for people based on their skin color. Same with Latinos.

Were you in a coma during the 2008 and 2012 elections, or are you just being naive?

Do you seriously think any of the people on bronz4141's list could win the black vote against Hillary Clinton in 2016, just by being black?

Obama won the black vote in 2008 and 2012 because:
1. His background and life story.
2. He was the Democratic nominee.
3. His campaign rhetoric and policies.
4. Who his opponents were.
5. He's black.

He could have won it both times with just the first four of those five, but the fifth is what the sealed the deal.

[Mordecai]

Believe it or not, Blacks do not vote for people based on their skin color. Same with Latinos.

Were you in a coma during the 2008 and 2012 elections, or are you just being naive?

Do you seriously think any of the people on bronz4141's list could win the black vote against Hillary Clinton in 2016, just by being black?

Obama won the black vote in 2008 and 2012 because:
1. His background and life story.
2. He was the Democratic nominee.
3. His campaign rhetoric and policies.
4. Who his opponents were.
5. He's black.

He could have won it both times with just the first four of those five, but the fifth is what the sealed the deal.

I am not denying they're other factors involved, but considering enthusiasm and turnout in the black community relative to historical norms (and understandably so) its hard to argue that black voters did not consider skin color as a factor at all.

It was a factor for enthusiasm but that's after taking into consideration the other four factors.

When Obama ran against Alan Keyes in 2004 he won in a landslide. That shows race is not the only factor.

Believe it or not, Blacks do not vote for people based on their skin color. Same with Latinos.

Were you in a coma during the 2008 and 2012 elections, or are you just being naive?

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Obama won 95% of the black vote because he's a Democrat, not because he's black.

If the 2016 is somehow black Republican vs. white Democrat, the Democrat will do just as well with black voters.


Remember the 2006 Ohio and Pennsylvania govs, 2006 Maryland senate, etc.

If the GOP nominated Condeleeza Rice, it would be interesting.  I would not be surprised if black female voters shifted to the GOP in significant numbers if Rice were the nominee.

How significant a shift would be the question.  It would be a seismic shift if the GOP got 15% of the black vote nationwide, but such a showing would be enough to nail down North Carolina, Virginia, Florida, and Ohio. 

Rice is pro-choice, so she is unlikely to run, let alone be nominated.  But she is, without question, the most viable black nominee for the GOP.  (Indeed, I see Rice as the best chance for the GOP to take back the White House, but no one there seems to realize this.)

She's also unmarried, has no children and (like Colin Powell) doesn't really seem like a conservative ideologue. Hypothetically, if she won the nomination, I wonder if the social conservatives would vote for the Democrat instead.

[Mordecai]

That's pretty dumb to say considering Obama's speech at the 2004 convention explicitly pointed out he was half-black in reference to America's cultural melting pot and that his mother was a white woman from Kansas. He even says in his memoir he was raised by his mother and her family and later set out to find his father's side of the family.

It's not the fact of being liberal or conservative or being half-black or whatever. The real issue that conservatives are ignoring is that Republicans just don't have qualified black Republican politicians who are willing to run for President, who also aren't stupid or crazy. Random television personalities and Tea Party activists just won't cut it, that's setting the bar way too low. Their best chance was Colin Powell in 1996 or 2000.

There probably won't be a black Republican President for quite some time either. The GOP would probably be better off trying to recapture the Latino vote that they held a significant chunk of during the Bush years and pushing for the first Republican Latino president because in that area they do have a number of qualified candidates including Susana Martinez and Brian Sandoval. Maybe even George P. Bush, twenty years from now.