Senate Democrats reject justice department nominee Debo Adegbile

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

They voted to filibuster their own party's nominee because the nominee did his job and got a client spared from the death penalty? Time for some primary challenges to these DINOs. Especially to Casey and Coons, who are from blue states.

I can understand folks like Manchin voting against it because they need to distance themselves from Obama to win in their states, but Coons and Casey have no excuse.

You really don't understand why Casey voted no?   

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

You don't know how the Senate works, do you?

Explain

Basically, any member who votes "no" is allowed to call for a reconsideration at a later day. A member who votes "yes" is not. So, routinely, if the nomination goes down, the majority leader at the last moment switches his vote to "no", to be allowed to request a revote if he manages to get a majority in favor.

But unless someone has changed sides, is there anything to be gained by a revote?  (Granted the GOP seems to think so with their repeated votes to defund Obamacare in the House, but I thought Reid was saner.)  And if someone does change sides, couldn't they be the one to request a revote?

The only way Reid's no vote makes sense is if plans to suddenly bring up the revote while several opponents are out of Washington, letting Adegbile be confirmed by something like a 48-46 vote.  Adegbile ain't worth the firestorm a stunt like that would cause.

It's a pro-forma procedural tactic......regardless of what will happen next.

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

You don't know how the Senate works, do you?

Explain

Basically, any member who votes "no" is allowed to call for a reconsideration at a later day. A member who votes "yes" is not. So, routinely, if the nomination goes down, the majority leader at the last moment switches his vote to "no", to be allowed to request a revote if he manages to get a majority in favor.

But unless someone has changed sides, is there anything to be gained by a revote?  (Granted the GOP seems to think so with their repeated votes to defund Obamacare in the House, but I thought Reid was saner.)  And if someone does change sides, couldn't they be the one to request a revote?

The only way Reid's no vote makes sense is if plans to suddenly bring up the revote while several opponents are out of Washington, letting Adegbile be confirmed by something like a 48-46 vote.  Adegbile ain't worth the firestorm a stunt like that would cause.

It's a pro-forma procedural tactic......regardless of what will happen next.

He probably just does it out of habit at this point.

Well he has to vote with the prevailing side.....which could be the pubby side a lot. 

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

Harry can you imagine the headlines if Casey really supported this guy?

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

Harry can you imagine the headlines if Casey really supported this guy?

Who cares? No one will remember this in 2018 either way...

Casey is constantly looking over his shoulder in fear. He thinks Pennsylvania is Mississippi.

Exactly.  Harry god bless your idealism and principles, and I mean that sincerely, but they won't let him live it down in 50 years, much less the next time he's up for election.  That's just not how it works here.

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

Harry can you imagine the headlines if Casey really supported this guy?

Who cares? No one will remember this in 2018 either way...

Casey is constantly looking over his shoulder in fear. He thinks Pennsylvania is Mississippi.

Isn't Pennsylvania basically Philly and Pittsburgh with Mississippi in between?

Well there's a dab of civilization around the Harrisburgh/Lancaster area, but pretty much, yeah.