Hillary Clinton vs. Gov. Mike Pence (R-Indiana)

[Suburbia]

Mike Pence seems to be the "heir" of the old-school Goldwater/Reagan movement. How would he fare against Hillary Clinton?

[badgate]

I agree they would both win.

[Mister Mets]

Keep in mind that Pence ran ten points behind Romney in Indiana. He seems like one of the weakest potential Republican nominees.

I think the likeliest map would be the 2012 Obama map exactly. And I say this as someone's who has argued that Obama was in a better place in 2012 than Hillary's expected to be in 2016.

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

What does Pence bring to the table, besides strong religious So-Con credentials and apparently some Tea Party approval? (Both of those may help him get the nomination, but would likely hurt him in the general.)

[IceSpear]

Yeah, I don't really see what Pence brings to the table.

[Suburbia]

If Pence can do well in the debates, and not look like a crazy conservative, he can do well electorally, but Hillary may still win.
Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton/Virginia Senator Mark Warner-294 EV
Indiana Governor Mike Pence/South Dakota Senator John Thune-244 EV

[Suburbia]

Pence could defeat Clinton under the right circumstances, IMO.

[Mister Mets]

Vox did a piece on Pence, arguing he has the right connection of policies, experience (congressional leadership plus Governor) and connections to be a strong primary contender.

http://www.vox.com/2014/9/30/6846367/mike-pence-2016

[Likely Voter]

I think I was the first here to talk up Pence, he is going to be a strong candidate both in the primaries and general. If you assume the GOP want a governor, then just look at the choices
http://www.rga.org/homepage/governors/
By process of elimination, Pence ends up their best chance.

Still think absent any major bad shifts in the economy or huge revelations/gaffes, that Hillary would beat him, but he would put up a good fight. I could see a Pence/Rubio ticket picking up the Romney states +OH, FL and IA (netting 259). Maybe throw in CO, and then Hillary squeaks by at 270 v 268. 

[Suburbia]

Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton/New Mexico Sen. Martin Heinrich-317 EV
Indiana Governor Mike Pence/South Dakota Senator John Thune-221 EV
If Pence runs for president, and wins the nomination, the question over the Religious Freedom bill he signed into law will be on the headlines for a while, but this would be the map if that was the issue for the Pence/Clinton election. If Pence can discuss economic issues or have a good message, he can beat Clinton.

[bobloblaw]

Yeah, I don't really see what Pence brings to the table.

Because you live in a state with a tax and spend Dem gov.

[Brewer]

Yeah, I don't really see what Pence brings to the table.

Because you live in a state with a tax and spend Dem gov.

What does a man at the center of a waning fundamentalist anti-gay movement bring to a national ticket in the year 2016?

[Suburbia]

Yeah, I don't really see what Pence brings to the table.

Because you live in a state with a tax and spend Dem gov.

What does a man at the center of a waning fundamentalist anti-gay movement bring to a national ticket in the year 2016?

He brings conservative voters and has a economic record in Indiana.

[Sumner 1868]

Yeah, I don't really see what Pence brings to the table.

Because you live in a state with a tax and spend Dem gov.

What does a man at the center of a waning fundamentalist anti-gay movement bring to a national ticket in the year 2016?

He brings conservative voters and has a economic record in Indiana.

The handful of people who genuinely like austerity always vote Republican already.

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton/New Mexico Sen. Martin Heinrich-317 EV
Indiana Governor Mike Pence/South Dakota Senator John Thune-221 EV
If Pence runs for president, and wins the nomination, the question over the Religious Freedom bill he signed into law will be on the headlines for a while, but this would be the map if that was the issue for the Pence/Clinton election. If Pence can discuss economic issues or have a good message, he can beat Clinton.

Hillary Clinton will have a hard time pounding him on that issue since her husband signed the federal version of that law in 1993.

[Ebsy]

Hillary Clinton is a gay icon though, so no one really cares what her husband, who isn't even running for office, did back in 1993 that he has since stated that he regrets doing.

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

Hillary Clinton is a gay icon though, so no one really cares what her husband, who isn't even running for office, did back in 1993 that he has since stated that he regrets doing.

When did Clinton say he regretted signing RFRA, a bill whose only dissenting votes in the Senate were Jesse Helms, Robert Byrd and Harlan Matthews?

[IceSpear]

Yeah, I don't really see what Pence brings to the table.

Because you live in a state with a tax and spend Dem gov.

Actually I was referring to the fact that he's basically Walker-lite. Walker is already running.

[IceSpear]

Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton/New Mexico Sen. Martin Heinrich-317 EV
Indiana Governor Mike Pence/South Dakota Senator John Thune-221 EV
If Pence runs for president, and wins the nomination, the question over the Religious Freedom bill he signed into law will be on the headlines for a while, but this would be the map if that was the issue for the Pence/Clinton election. If Pence can discuss economic issues or have a good message, he can beat Clinton.

Hillary Clinton will have a hard time pounding him on that issue since her husband signed the federal version of that law in 1993.

That's not how politics works.

[Mister Mets]

Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton/New Mexico Sen. Martin Heinrich-317 EV
Indiana Governor Mike Pence/South Dakota Senator John Thune-221 EV
If Pence runs for president, and wins the nomination, the question over the Religious Freedom bill he signed into law will be on the headlines for a while, but this would be the map if that was the issue for the Pence/Clinton election. If Pence can discuss economic issues or have a good message, he can beat Clinton.

There's more support for the religious freedom exceptions than there is for gay marriage, so that's probably not going to be the issue that dooms Pence.

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-gay-marriage-poll-20150205-story.html

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton/New Mexico Sen. Martin Heinrich-317 EV
Indiana Governor Mike Pence/South Dakota Senator John Thune-221 EV
If Pence runs for president, and wins the nomination, the question over the Religious Freedom bill he signed into law will be on the headlines for a while, but this would be the map if that was the issue for the Pence/Clinton election. If Pence can discuss economic issues or have a good message, he can beat Clinton.

Hillary Clinton will have a hard time pounding him on that issue since her husband signed the federal version of that law in 1993.

That's not how politics works.

Oh, right. I must have forgot Romney's success capitalizing on dissatisfaction with Obamacare in 2012.

[IceSpear]

Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton/New Mexico Sen. Martin Heinrich-317 EV
Indiana Governor Mike Pence/South Dakota Senator John Thune-221 EV
If Pence runs for president, and wins the nomination, the question over the Religious Freedom bill he signed into law will be on the headlines for a while, but this would be the map if that was the issue for the Pence/Clinton election. If Pence can discuss economic issues or have a good message, he can beat Clinton.

Hillary Clinton will have a hard time pounding him on that issue since her husband signed the federal version of that law in 1993.

That's not how politics works.

Oh, right. I must have forgot Romney's success capitalizing on dissatisfaction with Obamacare in 2012.

I'm sorry, but people are not going to hold Hillary accountable for a law her husband signed back when like 80% of the country despised gays.

[Sumner 1868]

Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton/New Mexico Sen. Martin Heinrich-317 EV
Indiana Governor Mike Pence/South Dakota Senator John Thune-221 EV
If Pence runs for president, and wins the nomination, the question over the Religious Freedom bill he signed into law will be on the headlines for a while, but this would be the map if that was the issue for the Pence/Clinton election. If Pence can discuss economic issues or have a good message, he can beat Clinton.

Hillary Clinton will have a hard time pounding him on that issue since her husband signed the federal version of that law in 1993.

That's not how politics works.

Oh, right. I must have forgot Romney's success capitalizing on dissatisfaction with Obamacare in 2012.

I'm sorry, but people are not going to hold Hillary accountable for a law her husband signed back when like 80% of the country despised gays.

Gallup polling shows a majority of Americans outside the South favored lifting the ban in 1993.

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton/New Mexico Sen. Martin Heinrich-317 EV
Indiana Governor Mike Pence/South Dakota Senator John Thune-221 EV
If Pence runs for president, and wins the nomination, the question over the Religious Freedom bill he signed into law will be on the headlines for a while, but this would be the map if that was the issue for the Pence/Clinton election. If Pence can discuss economic issues or have a good message, he can beat Clinton.

Hillary Clinton will have a hard time pounding him on that issue since her husband signed the federal version of that law in 1993.

That's not how politics works.

Oh, right. I must have forgot Romney's success capitalizing on dissatisfaction with Obamacare in 2012.

I'm sorry, but people are not going to hold Hillary accountable for a law her husband signed back when like 80% of the country despised gays.

The bill wasn't about gays, so that's a non sequitor.  If she runs on attacking Pence for this, she will have to deal with the ramifications on running on repealing a law her husband signed that guarantees rights to religious minorities.

[Former Democrat]

no question Hillary