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« Reply #25 on: March 06, 2014, 04:26:39 PM »

Maybe a Sanders third party campaign might focus on states that aren't at risk of going red.  He could put a lot of resources in his home state of Vermont. 
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« Reply #26 on: March 06, 2014, 04:28:07 PM »

Maybe a Sanders third party campaign might focus on states that aren't at risk of going red.  He could put a lot of resources in his home state of Vermont. 

I could see him winning Vermont and one of Main's congressional districts.
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« Reply #27 on: March 06, 2014, 04:29:17 PM »

Maybe a Sanders third party campaign might focus on states that aren't at risk of going red.  He could put a lot of resources in his home state of Vermont. 

I could see him winning Vermont and one of Main's congressional districts.

Maine is very Independent friendly. I think he'd do very well there
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« Reply #28 on: March 06, 2014, 04:31:46 PM »

Maybe a Sanders third party campaign might focus on states that aren't at risk of going red.  He could put a lot of resources in his home state of Vermont. 

I could see him winning Vermont and one of Main's congressional districts.

Maine is very Independent friendly. I think he'd do very well there

He would be in play in Massachusetts, as well. I can see him winning 6% of the vote or so.
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« Reply #29 on: March 06, 2014, 04:32:25 PM »

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Cheesy
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« Reply #30 on: March 06, 2014, 04:55:39 PM »

I could see him winning Vermont and one of Main's congressional districts.

It would be really interesting if he won some electoral votes.  And if he could win his most recent Senate election with over 70% of the vote, he should be able to win at least 40% of votes Vermont's Presidential election.  Maybe Vermont might go ~40% Sanders, ~35% Clinton, ~25% Republican.

I imagine that being a sitting US Senator makes it easier for one to run a high-profile third-party campaign. 
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« Reply #31 on: March 06, 2014, 08:56:11 PM »


Especially heartened by this:

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« Reply #32 on: March 06, 2014, 09:17:09 PM »

I highly recommend he doesn't make a third party or independent run though because he would just end up embarrassing himself in carrying only VT and would be considered a traitor to the party especially if a Republican managed to beat Hillary because of that.

"The independent is a traitor to the party!"
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« Reply #33 on: March 06, 2014, 09:43:21 PM »

You all are overestimating Sanders he has very low name rec. outside of Vermont even among Democrats and I can't see him amassing the kind of money to help with that. Also he'd be 74 years old by the time he ran and what would be a grueling campaign for him at that age. And honestly I think Hillary would just ignore him if he ran I don't even think she's going to do any debates.
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« Reply #34 on: March 06, 2014, 10:09:56 PM »

And honestly I think Hillary would just ignore him if he ran I don't even think she's going to do any debates.

That's why Sanders and Schweitzer should both run against her, so they can at least debate against each other if she doesn't show up.
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« Reply #35 on: March 06, 2014, 10:22:58 PM »

One of the few Republican paths to 270 in 2016.
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« Reply #36 on: March 06, 2014, 11:10:30 PM »

Doubt he even breaks 1% of the vote a lot of Dems learned from 2000 the consequences of voting for third party candidates.
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« Reply #37 on: March 06, 2014, 11:23:24 PM »

Doubt he even breaks 1% of the vote a lot of Dems learned from 2000 the consequences of voting for third party candidates.

He's said that he has yet to decide whether he'd run as a Democrat or an Independent.
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« Reply #38 on: March 07, 2014, 12:02:28 AM »

Doubt he even breaks 1% of the vote a lot of Dems learned from 2000 the consequences of voting for third party candidates.

He's said that he has yet to decide whether he'd run as a Democrat or an Independent.


It doesn't matter even if he runs in the Democratic primary he is certain to lose and if he runs as an Independent he'd get an insignificant amount of votes.
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« Reply #39 on: March 07, 2014, 12:23:25 AM »

ITT: people who don't want substantive change writing off an actual progressive
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« Reply #40 on: March 07, 2014, 12:26:18 AM »

Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama should not have a D by their names; they should have a C.

C for Corporatist.
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« Reply #41 on: March 07, 2014, 12:49:16 AM »

ITT: people who don't want substantive change writing off an actual progressive

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If the Democrats nominate Hillary, they deserve to lose.
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« Reply #42 on: March 07, 2014, 01:03:28 AM »

ITT: people who don't want substantive change writing off an actual progressive

Oh I'd vote for him if he ran as a Democrat; it's just that first-past-the-post means that if he gets any real support as an independent, then we get Ted Cruz or Jeb Bush in the White House. Yes, Hillary is terrible and I'd vote for Bernie in the primary rather than her, but the realities of first past the post means turd sandwich is better than gleeful destruction of the economic system (the pro-defaulters that are the Republicans).

We need instant-runoff voting to have real multiple-party representation.

I do want change, but Bernie can do that better changing things from the inside.
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« Reply #43 on: March 07, 2014, 01:38:18 AM »

Hell yeah. Maybe he'll force Hillary to pretend to give a rat's ass about liberals for a little bit.
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« Reply #44 on: March 07, 2014, 01:48:14 AM »

Hell yeah. Maybe he'll force Hillary to pretend to give a rat's ass about liberals for a little bit.

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« Reply #45 on: March 07, 2014, 03:41:26 AM »


Especially heartened by this:

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Plot twist: He runs as a Republican. Tongue
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« Reply #46 on: March 07, 2014, 06:38:34 AM »

Doubt he even breaks 1% of the vote a lot of Dems learned from 2000 the consequences of voting for third party candidates.
Evidently the democratic party hasn't learned the consequences of nominating weak candidates that make people want to vote third party
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« Reply #47 on: March 07, 2014, 07:38:56 AM »

Doubt he even breaks 1% of the vote a lot of Dems learned from 2000 the consequences of voting for third party candidates.
Evidently the democratic party hasn't learned the consequences of nominating weak candidates that make people want to vote third party

No way at all does she compare to Gore and there will always be people who want to vote third party, it even happened in 2008. Hillary isn't a weak candidate either, she's one of the strongest candidates in a generation especially considering the incumbent President is of the same party.
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« Reply #48 on: March 07, 2014, 07:49:21 AM »

Doubt he even breaks 1% of the vote a lot of Dems learned from 2000 the consequences of voting for third party candidates.

except they've learned from 2008/2012 as well.
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« Reply #49 on: March 07, 2014, 10:25:40 AM »

Doubt he even breaks 1% of the vote a lot of Dems learned from 2000 the consequences of voting for third party candidates.
Evidently the democratic party hasn't learned the consequences of nominating weak candidates that make people want to vote third party

Please. Hillary is a much stronger candidate than True Leftist hero candidates like Schweitzer or Sanders who would lose in a landslide. I'm sure she'll be fine without the <1% egotistical True Leftist demographic, most of which will end up pulling the lever for her in the end just like they did for Obama in 2012.

Also, I highly doubt Sanders will run third party. Unlike the suicidal True Leftists on Atlas and the vain egotists like Nader, he understands the importance of compromise and stopping Republicans.

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