What do you find immoral?

[Mordecai]

None.

[TNF]

NOTA

Doesn't mean I'd ever engage in all of them, though

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

Where is the "none" option?

[MATTROSE94]

Abortion (Though I do still favor it in the cases of incest, rape or if the life of the mother is danger)
Death penalty (I do favor it in very extreme cases though)
Doctor-assisted suicide
Polygamy
Suicide (in general)
Medical testing animals
Cloning animals
Cloning humans

[LeBron]

Death penalty/life imprisonment without parole - Depriving life to any citizen, criminal or non-criminal, is a violation of the Constitution and it's just wrong to keep someone locked up for the rest of their life or poisoned with a lethal drug. They're still people and deserve some respect no matter how heinous the crime is, so even the likes of Tsarnaev or Lanza, two of the worst present day criminals, shouldn't get that type of punishment. If the circumstances had been different for guys like them growing up and maybe if they didn't have some mental illness or something, they wouldn't be murderers. However, I still support large sentences for criminals and probably even life imprisonment with the opportunity of parole and rehabilitation at some point.

Polygamy - Marrying wife after wife just for sex is just wrong, and if it was legalized, since the male is considered more dominant still, it would more often than not be the man who has many wives than a woman who would have many husbands, so it's very much sexist. Besides, there is no love or bondage within those relationships and the women are often forced to marry the man if the cult is strong enough. It doesn't deserve marital recognition at all, should be illegal, and doesn't even deserve to be compared to SSM.

Wearing clothes with fur - Most people who can even afford it are rich snobs anyways. Besides that, killing an animal just to get their fur is definitely immoral and heck, even an old episode of SpongeBob focuses on that IIRC.

Medical testing on animals - Animals aren't test puppets and deserve respect and the right to life without the risk of dying.


Other things that aren't on there:

Guns - I'm really, really surprised this wasn't put up there, yet homosexuality is. The intention of the gun is either going to be for "self-defense" or to kill, usually animals. The self-defense argument is not good enough IMO because every household does have knives, bats, pans etc. and other things that aren't banned. There's no need whatsoever for hunting unless you personal work for a slaughterhouse or something because most hunters only want to kill animals for a nice meal that night which isn't right. Now if I could, I would be all for making it nearly impossible to own a gun without being arrested ( #USFirearmsControlRegulationsAct2014), however, there's comprehensive gun safety reform that I think both sides should be able to agree on. Criminal background checks, reducing magazine capacity to 3 rounds at a time, banning all assault weapons, banning conceal carry, and a few other things.

Drugs and Alcohol - Not only do they bad damage to your own bodies, but they can be highly addictive and ruin your social life. There's friends I have who are also underage and secretly do drugs that are illegal in Ohio and it pains me. It really does. There's a lack of consideration of the consequences, lack of consideration for their health, lack of consideration for their families and friends, lack of consideration for people around them who don't want to have to smell that awful odor, and especially, a lack of consideration for those in the car with you, and a lack of consideration for other people on the road driving. No names particular on here, but I highly recommend giving up the drugs or alcohol you're on, underage or not.

Prostitution - There are plenty of women who don't want to have to resort to sex with random, awful strangers, but have to in order to support themselves. It should remain illegal though because just like polygamy, it's wrong to be having sex with a whole bunch of different people you barely know for pleasure and money. They need assistance from the government for sure to find actual jobs and don't deserve the kind of abuse and hate they get from the "pimps."

Homophobia/racism/other types of bullying - It's noticeable all around the Internet and around schools and colleges and some of it can occasionally lead to suicide which I'll get to.


Others I'm "on the edge" about:

Suicide (in general) - The thing about this is, sometimes there's good, but unfortunate reasons for it as it often pertains to LGBT people especially and I feel for them. However, you also have insane people who jump in front of traffic, shoot and kill themselves to avoid being arrested, set themselves on fire on top of the national mall etc. in which case it's immoral.

Doctor-assisted suicide - I'm mostly against it considering the patient is often to ill to make an informed decision, but I would support it if their relatives, family or friends agreed that it was appropriate and permitted it.

Pornography - I'll admit, I have watched gay porn before, but I am against it when there's straight men who choose to watch lesbian porn which happens a lot, unfortunately.

Speeding - I sometimes go a few miles over the designated speed limit, but going 15-20 over is ridiculous. I've literally had people honk their horns at me when I was going 38 on a 35 mph zone.

Violent movies/violent video games - I support the regulations that are already on them and think we might need to take it a step further given the influence they often have on actual criminals, but I won't be a hypocrite because even I play the occasional GTA.

[Del Tachi]

The immoral ones...

Abortion
Euthanasia
Sex before marriage 
Divorce
Polygamy
Pornography
Homosexuality
Gambling
Unwed Birth
Suicide
Cloning animals
Cloning humans

I may be a bit out-of-the-mainstream on this one...

[RI]

Abortion
Death Penalty
Doctor-assisted suicide
Sex before marriage (or in general outside of)
Divorce
Polygamy
Pornography
Birth control (some types, not all depending on your definition)
Teenage sex (assuming they aren't married)
Homosexuality (the acts associated with it anyway)
Suicide
Stem cell research (if embryonic)
Cloning humans

Everything else listed can be immoral under more specific conditions. I would also add gender-reassignment surgery.

[anvi]

I find it immoral to categorically criticize anything without understanding the circumstances of the people involved first.  So, in the abstract, I can't sign on to any of these.

[Cory]

None of these.

[MurrayBannerman]

Regardless
Suicide
Doctor-assisted suicide

Circumstantial
Death Penalty - War criminals like Nazi regime, but not much else.
Abortion - Rape or incest. I'm not against abortion law, but I strongly support incentives toward adoption.
Cloning humans - I'd be alright with body parts and organs, but not whole humans.

Personal Choices
Divorce
Polygamy

[sdu754]

Death penalty/life imprisonment without parole - Depriving life to any citizen, criminal or non-criminal, is a violation of the Constitution and it's just wrong to keep someone locked up for the rest of their life or poisoned with a lethal drug. They're still people and deserve some respect no matter how heinous the crime is, so even the likes of Tsarnaev or Lanza, two of the worst present day criminals, shouldn't get that type of punishment. If the circumstances had been different for guys like them growing up and maybe if they didn't have some mental illness or something, they wouldn't be murderers. However, I still support large sentences for criminals and probably even life imprisonment with the opportunity of parole and rehabilitation at some point.

To me the thought of releasing homicidal maniacs back into society is a much more immoral act. I do agree, that either through the death penalty or a life sentence, one life it taken away. One just takes longer than the other.

Polygamy - Marrying wife after wife just for sex is just wrong.

I don't think polygamy is done "just for sex".

Wearing clothes with fur - Most people who can even afford it are rich snobs anyways. Besides that, killing an animal just to get their fur is definitely immoral and heck, even an old episode of SpongeBob focuses on that IIRC.

So you don't have any cloths with leather in them, or any other animal products? Are you a vegan? Most anti-fur people are generally hypocritical. 

Medical testing on animals - Animals aren't test puppets and deserve respect and the right to life without the risk of dying.

You have this one on here, but you don't have abortion or stem cell research. I find that very odd

Guns - I'm really, really surprised this wasn't put up there, yet homosexuality is. The intention of the gun is either going to be for "self-defense" or to kill, usually animals. The self-defense argument is not good enough IMO because every household does have knives, bats, pans etc. and other things that aren't banned.

Someone breaks into my house with a gun, I'll defend myself with that Emeril frying pan my sister bought me. Who do you think wins that fight? Also, Guns aren't banned. Even if every gun in the entire world were destroyed, people would still kill each other, they could simply use "knives, bats, pans etc. and other things that aren't banned."

There's no need whatsoever for hunting unless you personal work for a slaughterhouse or something because most hunters only want to kill animals for a nice meal that night which isn't right.

It's wrong if a hunter kills an animal "for a nice meal that night" but it's alright if someone kills an animal so others can have a nice meal that night. Why? Which animals live a better life: Those that are raised to be food, or ones that give to live a life of freedom until they are hunted?

Now if I could, I would be all for making it nearly impossible to own a gun without being arrested ( #USFirearmsControlRegulationsAct2014), however, there's comprehensive gun safety reform that I think both sides should be able to agree on. Criminal background checks, reducing magazine capacity to 3 rounds at a time, banning all assault weapons, banning conceal carry, and a few other things.

Why should both sides agree on that. How would reducing magazine capacity to 3 rounds be a good idea. Are we to believe that a guy with a gun and four bullets is going on a shooting spree? Conceal carry laws actually reduce crime. Guns are categorized as "Assault rifles" for looking nasty more than for their capabilities.

Drugs and Alcohol - Not only do they bad damage to your own bodies, but they can be highly addictive and ruin your social life. There's friends I have who are also underage and secretly do drugs that are illegal in Ohio and it pains me. It really does. There's a lack of consideration of the consequences, lack of consideration for their health, lack of consideration for their families and friends, lack of consideration for people around them who don't want to have to smell that awful odor, and especially, a lack of consideration for those in the car with you, and a lack of consideration for other people on the road driving. No names particular on here, but I highly recommend giving up the drugs or alcohol you're on, underage or not.

I agree that abuse of drugs is immoral, but the far more immoral act is the selling of illegal drugs. The media's portrayal of Marijuana as "cool & harmless" is even more immoral than taking drugs, as it leads people (especially under 25) to believe "it's no big deal"

Prostitution - There are plenty of women who don't want to have to resort to sex with random, awful strangers, but have to in order to support themselves. It should remain illegal though because just like polygamy, it's wrong to be having sex with a whole bunch of different people you barely know for pleasure and money. They need assistance from the government for sure to find actual jobs and don't deserve the kind of abuse and hate they get from the "pimps."

So polygamy is wrong, because you "shouldn't be having sex with a whole bunch of different people" but you're not against pre marital sex? Making prostitution illegal causes much bigger problems than legalizing it. criminalizing prostitution leads to the spread of venereal disease, under age prostitution and human trafficking. If what a woman does with her body is her own "choice" why shouldn't she be allowed to be a prostitute?

Suicide (in general) - The thing about this is, sometimes there's good, but unfortunate reasons for it as it often pertains to LGBT people especially and I feel for them. However, you also have insane people who jump in front of traffic, shoot and kill themselves to avoid being arrested, set themselves on fire on top of the national mall etc. in which case it's immoral.

What is the good of suicide? Unless your thinking of a scenario where Hitler would have killed himself because of his disappointment in being a failed artist, or something similar, I really can't see it.

Pornography - I'll admit, I have watched gay porn before, but I am against it when there's straight men who choose to watch lesbian porn which happens a lot, unfortunately.

Unless you are gay, that's pretty hypocritical. Why is watching two lesbians wrong for a straight man but not watching two gay guys? I see nothing immoral with porn, unless the people are forced to do it or under age.

Speeding - I sometimes go a few miles over the designated speed limit, but going 15-20 over is ridiculous. I've literally had people honk their horns at me when I was going 38 on a 35 mph zone.

The only way speeding is immoral, is if you are creating a dangerous situation. As far as picking an arbitrary range where it is immoral, remember this. All those areas today that have 70 mph speed limits once had 55 mph speed limits. If you can safely go 75 through a 55 (Think freeway) what is immoral about that? One could say it's immoral for a police officer to give you a ticket on a turnpike if you're not being reckless, since you're paying to use that road.

Violent movies/violent video games - I support the regulations that are already on them and think we might need to take it a step further given the influence they often have on actual criminals, but I won't be a hypocrite because even I play the occasional GTA.

Violent games & movies don't create criminals. If that were true, people would be dropping anvils on each other every day mimicking Looney Tunes cartoons. There would also be a large number of people driving dangerously to avoid the police after watching the Dukes of hazard. GTA Vice City was modeled after Scarface, so shouldn't both of those had the same negative affect on society?

[RosettaStoned]

 None; I am a libertine.

[politicallefty]

Abortion
While I do think abortion is immoral, I support its legality until viability of the fetus.

Death penalty
So long as life imprisonment is an option, the death penalty should never be used.

Medical testing with animals
I don't think this one needs an explanation.

Wearing clothes w/animal fur
This isn't immoral in and of itself. I have a problem with using animals just for fur. In other words, if you're going to kill an animal just to use its fur, I think that's wrong. My exceptions would be such as using a deer hide where using the hide is incidental to killing the animal for meat. If an animal is to be killed for its meat, all of its parts should be used as much as possible.

When it comes to stem cell research, I really don't see the issue. As I understand it, researchers only use those stem cells that would have otherwise been disposed of. As for me, I'd rather they serve the benefit of mankind rather than going into the trash.

[sdu754]

Death penalty
So long as life imprisonment is an option, the death penalty should never be used.

Either way, you're taking someone's life away, one's just quicker than the other.

[Foucaulf]

Exactly two: lying and suicide. All other feelings of immorality are outputs of functions, like norms of complicity and of possible consequences, that take those two as inputs.

[afleitch]

In the strictest sense, only the death penalty.

[Ban my account ffs!]

Late term abortions, the death penalty, and medical testing on animals are the three most morally questionable things out of that list.  Most of the other things I either don't have a problem with, or only have specific problems with.

For example, I don't support cloning animals and humans just for sh**ts and giggles.  But I do support allowing cloning of animals so long as you're not cloning animals that suffer genetic defects that lower their quality of life and for humans, I'd say no cloning individuals... but cloning tissues, etc for health improvement and research I have no problem with.

[Oakvale]

I don't think any of these are immoral except for the death penalty.

I see that the bizarre idea that life imprisonment is somehow the same as the death penalty has crept in here. Is this the latest fuzzy liberal thinking on "rehabilitation"?

[Snowstalker Mk. II]

I don't think any of these are immoral except for the death penalty.

I see that the bizarre idea that life imprisonment is somehow the same as the death penalty has crept in here. Is this the latest fuzzy liberal thinking on "rehabilitation"?

I find the idea that a person should be kept in for life without the possibility of parole to be immoral. Anyone should be eligible for parole at some point, with only those still truly dangerous to society kept locked up.

FTR, my views on most of these are fairly nuanced, though I would only call a few activities on here "immoral" (the death penalty being one of them).

[windjammer]

Polygamy - [...] Besides, there is no love or bondage within those relationships and the women are often forced to marry the man if the cult is strong enough. It doesn't deserve marital recognition at all, should be illegal, and doesn't even deserve to be compared to SSM.

What qualifies you to judge which relationships involve "love" and which do not?

Please Averroes, don't be so progressive. Legalizing polygamy will probably a big social issue in 50/100 years, not now .

[windjammer]

The immoral ones...

Abortion
Euthanasia
Sex before marriage 
Divorce
Polygamy
Pornography
Homosexuality
Gambling
Unwed Birth
Suicide
Cloning animals
Cloning humans

I may be a bit out-of-the-mainstream on this one...

I remember one of your post:

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Do you believe you're yourself immoral?

[The world will shine with light in our nightmare]

My personal judgments.  Any item included in multiple categories was done intentionally.

Completely immoral, policy should dictate accordingly
Death penalty

Cloning humans

Circumstantial, policy may or may not dictate depending on the issue
Cloning animals

Doctor-assisted suicide

Teenage sex (Not sure why this wouldn't be incorporated with 'sex before marriage.')

Sex before marriage

Gambling

Wearing clothes w/animal fur

Medical testing animals

Pornography (I struggle to deem this moral or immoral.  I can't rationalize why it's wrong, but at the same time I'm not convinced that it's something compatible with my beliefs.  That being said, I think sex work should be legal provided that no coercion is involved and strict health/worker standards are set.)

Personally immoral
Abortion (if it is used as a form of birth control or is sex-selective, but the latter situation influences a woman's decision how often?  .0001% of the time?)

Suicide for non-medical reasons

Divorce (in most cases, not considering domestic abuse cases or honest efforts to rebuild a marriage)

Polygamy

Sex before marriage

Teenage sex (Not sure why this wouldn't be incorporated with 'sex before marriage.')

Amoral
Birth control

Homosexuality

Unwed births (I find nothing immoral about bringing a child into this world as long as it's cared for and given a good life, and that's why I refuse to label it either way.)

Stem cell research


I'm not going to bother justifying my decisions beyond what I wrote because, for the most part, I apply these morals to my life and my life only.  I leave most things that I oppose or am hesitant about for purely religious reasons to my faith and my God.  I've met or have known at least one person who's done most of these things, but I haven't condemned them for it nor do I intend to start.  In fact, I only bother sharing my opinion if it is asked for.

Just to get that out of the way.

[Cassius]

When it comes to this list, the only things that I see as being wholly 'immoral' (although perhaps a better phrase, from my perspective, would be unredeemably distasteful) are polygamy, pornography and prostitution (and adultery, but that isn't on the list). The things on this list that I don't find immoral at all are medical testing on animals (unless that is part of a process that will be used to hurt humans for no good reason), wearing animal furs and cloning animals (with the same caveat when it comes to experimenting upon them). All of the others I find to be somewhat morally grey, ranging from a very dark grey (gambling and abortion) to a light grey (the death penalty). Obviously, the situation is important when it comes to looking into certain issues, like abortion for example. To my mind, I believe that abortion should be kept legal as a last resort if keeping the baby is a serious threat to the life of the mother (who may well have certain responsibilities to others in her life). However, I am totally opposed to the idea that a woman can simply ask for and receive an abortion upon a mere whim (this is an oversimplification, laid out largely to represent the other extreme of this issue for me). In a similar way, I am an advocate of using the death penalty, but, on the other hand, I feel that it would be wrong to extend it to a number of crimes (as do most advocates of capital punishment) as it would be disproportionate.

[Ebowed]

Death penalty

But I also find a number of the others distasteful: wearing clothes w/ animal fur, medical testing on animals.

[H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY]

Homosexuality: Immoral (I took this to mean the act of homosexual sex, not orientation)[/color]

Give me one good reason why you believe this.