CPAC 'GOP minority outreach' panel goes as well as you'd expect

[hopper]

What about the whole premise that minority = poor person wanting government handouts? Maybe that is part of the problem? Is the reason 90%+ of blacks vote for Dems because they are all getting 'goodies'?

There are a lot of factors as to why Blacks vote 90% Dem. Here are some of them:

1.) The New Deal: Blacks back then saw this as groundbreaking in terms of policy.
2.) Barry Goldwater in 1964 though that "The Civil Rights Act of 1964" was a state issue which turned off a lot of Blacks from voting Republican that year.
3.) Strom Thurmond becoming a Republican: Strom Thurmond was disliked in the Black Community because of his racist statements.
4.) The Great Migration-A lot of blacks moved North before the "Civil Rights act of 1964" and its hard for the Republicans to make inroads in The North because the Black Vote is so strongly Dem.
5.) Al Sharpton still popular and is on MSNBC.

Most of the issues as to why the Dems have a stronghold on the Black Vote go back to the early to mid 1960's the other is that Blacks live in Cities which are run by Democrats and the Northeast which is liberal socially. I will say also Blacks are less likely to marry than other ethnicity/races which reduces their likelyhood of becoming Republicans.

[Small Business Owner of Any Repute]

None of the middle class Asians, Hispanics or African Americans I know "get handouts" or support Republicans.

Perhaps suggesting that all minorities are poor and looking for a handout is part of the Republican outreach problem?

[The world will shine with light in our nightmare]

Remember, kids.

[Likely Voter]

None of the middle class Asians, Hispanics or African Americans I know "get handouts" or support Republicans.

Perhaps suggesting that all minorities are poor and looking for a handout is part of the Republican outreach problem?

Even worse, they transfer that narrative to any group that don't vote for them. Unmarried women (including white women) want "free contraception" (and are therefore sluts). Gays who want to get married or protection from discrimination are "demanding special rights".

[hopper]

The pathetic "Democrats win bc welfar queeenz want handouts!!!!11!!!1!!!" spiel is directly contradicted by one group: Asian - Americans.


Higher incomes, higher education levels, higher entrepreneurship levels, "traditional values", work ethic, etc. etc. etc. and yet they went from 55% Republican in 1992 to 63% Democrat in 2008, then 73% Dem in 2012 (a swing toward Obama).


Clearly, it's not just "gifts".

Asians that's different. Asians went for Republicans until the Cold War ended and than the Republicans became a Deep South Party as the decade of the 1990's went which Asians couldn't relate to. Some of the Asian demographic patterns can be traced to where they live like strong Dem Strongholds like NY, NJ, MA, CA, MD, and WA. A lot of Asians like in metro area's like Phoenix, Dallas, Tampa, Detroit, and the DC Metro area as well. That is one of the demography problems for the GOP getting the Asian Vote back in Metro Areas with the Asian Vote.

Obama was a very good candidate that the Asian Community took and still takes a heavy  liking too.

I think part of the Asian Vote in that they vote for Dems is they haven't been in this country that long most of their population growth is from immigration not births in the US.

[hopper]

None of the middle class Asians, Hispanics or African Americans I know "get handouts" or support Republicans.

Perhaps suggesting that all minorities are poor and looking for a handout is part of the Republican outreach problem?

Even worse, they transfer that narrative to any group that don't vote for them. Unmarried women (including white women) want "free contraception" (and are therefore sluts). Gays who want to get married or protection from discrimination are "demanding special rights".

One person (Rush Limbaugh) said Sandra Fluke was a slut. Free contraception? Not to get too into it but I don't want to pay for another woman's contraception for a woman that I don't know.

Look Republicans just think gay marriage is morally wrong. It has been an institution forever.

[Likely Voter]

One person (Rush Limbaugh) said Sandra Fluke was a slut.

I could have sworn that the amendment to allow any employer (not just religious institution) to deny their employees birth control was called the "Blunt Amendment" and not the Limbaugh Amendment...and every Republican senator (except Olympia Snowe) voted for it.

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Firstly, the debate about contraception was the ACA requirement that it be covered by private insurance, not paid for by taxes.  But you are paying for penis pumps and Viagra through Medicare, I'm sure you are OK with that right?

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So what. The government isn't a tool of religious morality and accusing the gays of wanted to be treated 'special' when what they are actually asking for is equality is what is really immoral.

[pbrower2a]

I am absolutely loving how slowly... ever so slowly... the Democrats are beginning to control the narrative.

Watching Republicans begin to do what the Dems did for the past 35 years is such sweet victory.

Can you go into detail about this statement?

I think the Dems controlling narrative is about them having the liberal media and the demography changes at their back. The other is the Republicans weak messaging and the Republicans totally turning off Hispanics at the polls and also the Republicans not modifying their policies to adapt to the changing demography of the electorate.

If the Republicans were simply a center-right party instead of a semi-fascist party it would be making gains among Hispanic-Americans and Asian-Americans instead of losing them. Barack Obama is neither Hispanic nor Asian, so such is not identity politics. Anti-union policies strike at a traditionally Democratic constituency that showed some R shift when Reagan was President.

The GOP seems to have doubled down on anti-intellectualism... and successful Hispanics and Asians (not to mention blacks) are well educated. Anti-intellectualism is an insult to anyone with a college degree. Even if they are business owners many of their clientele are fellow members of minorities, and clients may drive the political tendencies of small business more than concerns over taxes and wages. 

The Republican Party has gained largely among poor Southern whites -- but that is a limited constituency. 

[hopper]

One person (Rush Limbaugh) said Sandra Fluke was a slut.

I could have sworn that the amendment to allow any employer (not just religious institution) to deny their employees birth control was called the "Blunt Amendment" and not the Limbaugh Amendment...and every Republican senator (except Olympia Snowe) voted for it.

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Firstly, the debate about contraception was the ACA requirement that it be covered by private insurance, not paid for by taxes.  But you are paying for penis pumps and Viagra through Medicare, I'm sure you are OK with that right?

You must be logged in to read this quote.

So what. The government isn't a tool of religious morality and accusing the gays of wanted to be treated 'special' when what they are actually asking for is equality is what is really immoral.

Banning Employers from offering contraception through their religious beliefs is not calling a woman a slut. Do I think the "Blunt Amendment" was overreach? Yes.

I don't want to pay for Viagra or Penis Pumps(I laughed when I saw this word.)

[hopper]

I am absolutely loving how slowly... ever so slowly... the Democrats are beginning to control the narrative.

Watching Republicans begin to do what the Dems did for the past 35 years is such sweet victory.

Can you go into detail about this statement?

I think the Dems controlling narrative is about them having the liberal media and the demography changes at their back. The other is the Republicans weak messaging and the Republicans totally turning off Hispanics at the polls and also the Republicans not modifying their policies to adapt to the changing demography of the electorate.

If the Republicans were simply a center-right party instead of a semi-fascist party it would be making gains among Hispanic-Americans and Asian-Americans instead of losing them. Barack Obama is neither Hispanic nor Asian, so such is not identity politics. Anti-union policies strike at a traditionally Democratic constituency that showed some R shift when Reagan was President.

The GOP seems to have doubled down on anti-intellectualism... and successful Hispanics and Asians (not to mention blacks) are well educated. Anti-intellectualism is an insult to anyone with a college degree. Even if they are business owners many of their clientele are fellow members of minorities, and clients may drive the political tendencies of small business more than concerns over taxes and wages. 

The Republican Party has gained largely among poor Southern whites -- but that is a limited constituency. 

What do you mean by semi-facist or anti-intellectual? Can you go into more detail?

[Likely Voter]

It's not just the Blunt Amendment, the House GOP last year also tried to carve contraception requirement out of the ACA and even made it part of their pre-shutdown list of demands. And let's not forget what Mike Huckabee had to say about it....
"If the Democrats want to insult the women of America by making them believe that they are helpless without Uncle Sugar coming in and providing for them a prescription each month for birth control, because they cannot control their libido or their reproductive system without the help of the government, then so be it.”
Which gets back to the point. The GOP have to stop treating everyone who isnt a strait Christian middle/upper-class white male as someone looking for a handout.

[Ogre Mage]

The optics of this photo are terrible, they better find a much smaller room for the next minority outreach panel.  As for the empty room, the fact the Right does not like or respect minorities isn't new.  On some level I find this sham outreach to us amusing.  It's like those Hollywood starlets doing charity work they hate just because they want good PR.  Too bad their fake interest in us is so transparent that any fool could see through it.

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

The next time they need offer free food and free booze. Oh, wait, pubs hate handouts.

[Starbucks Union Thug HokeyPuck]

The next time they need offer free food and free booze. Oh, wait, pubs hate handouts.

Plus, you know how those people tend to get all rowdy with the booze and whatnot. 

[King]

The next time they need offer free food and free booze. Oh, wait, pubs hate handouts.

Plus, you know how those people tend to get all rowdy with the booze and whatnot.  

They might get another situation where the audience demands blacks start to feel more grateful about the free food and shelter they were given during slavery.

[hopper]

The optics of this photo are terrible, they better find a much smaller room for the next minority outreach panel.  As for the empty room, the fact the Right does not like or respect minorities isn't new.  On some level I find this sham outreach to us amusing.  It's like those Hollywood starlets doing charity work they hate just because they want good PR.  Too bad their fake interest in us is so transparent that any fool could see through it.

That's hogwash about not caring about minorities. They do but their policies are just missing it and their rhetoric is not right to get their votes.

You may be right about the Hollywood actors doing charity works though in what their reasoning is.

Fake interest? That's actually what Liberal Dems to say they care about minorities when they don't. They want their vote that's basically it. You went there I had to follow up.

[hopper]

The next time they need offer free food and free booze. Oh, wait, pubs hate handouts.

You Dems(some of you guys) should  be ashamed of what you guys write on this thread. I know you guys want to win on elections at all costs and look at winning elections as a sport. Personal rhetoric   directed at Republicans is no different than the racists you guys like to talk about in the GOP. You guys should check your rhetoric.

[Goldwater]

The next time they need offer free food and free booze. Oh, wait, pubs hate handouts.

You Dems(some of you guys) should  be ashamed of what you guys write on this thread. I know you guys want to win on elections at all costs and look at winning elections as a sport. Personal rhetoric   directed at Republicans is no different than the racists you guys like to talk about in the GOP. You guys should check your rhetoric.

Did you just call Grumps a Democrat? lol.

[hopper]

The next time they need offer free food and free booze. Oh, wait, pubs hate handouts.

You Dems(some of you guys) should  be ashamed of what you guys write on this thread. I know you guys want to win on elections at all costs and look at winning elections as a sport. Personal rhetoric   directed at Republicans is no different than the racists you guys like to talk about in the GOP. You guys should check your rhetoric.

Did you just call Grumps a Democrat? lol.

I'm just sick of liberal dem policies in my face all the time. Alright you guys won in 2012 be happy with the victory and stop throwing it in everybody's face. It just seems like you guys like to do that.

I am also sick of racial rhetoric: code word that code word this. Its like Dems can't win without playing identity politics. You guys won in the 90's on substance. I would vote for a moderate to conservative dem but liberal dems they have no economic plan.

[Potatoe]

The next time they need offer free food and free booze. Oh, wait, pubs hate handouts.

You Dems(some of you guys) should  be ashamed of what you guys write on this thread. I know you guys want to win on elections at all costs and look at winning elections as a sport. Personal rhetoric   directed at Republicans is no different than the racists you guys like to talk about in the GOP. You guys should check your rhetoric.

Did you just call Grumps a Democrat? lol.

I'm just sick of liberal dem policies in my face all the time. Alright you guys won in 2012 be happy with the victory and stop throwing it in everybody's face. It just seems like you guys like to do that.

................................Who are you addressing? since SG is not a Democrat.

[Goldwater]

The next time they need offer free food and free booze. Oh, wait, pubs hate handouts.

You Dems(some of you guys) should  be ashamed of what you guys write on this thread. I know you guys want to win on elections at all costs and look at winning elections as a sport. Personal rhetoric   directed at Republicans is no different than the racists you guys like to talk about in the GOP. You guys should check your rhetoric.

Did you just call Grumps a Democrat? lol.

I'm just sick of liberal dem policies in my face all the time. Alright you guys won in 2012 be happy with the victory and stop throwing it in everybody's face. It just seems like you guys like to do that.

"You guys"? I'm a Republican...

[hopper]

The next time they need offer free food and free booze. Oh, wait, pubs hate handouts.

You Dems(some of you guys) should  be ashamed of what you guys write on this thread. I know you guys want to win on elections at all costs and look at winning elections as a sport. Personal rhetoric   directed at Republicans is no different than the racists you guys like to talk about in the GOP. You guys should check your rhetoric.

Did you just call Grumps a Democrat? lol.

I'm just sick of liberal dem policies in my face all the time. Alright you guys won in 2012 be happy with the victory and stop throwing it in everybody's face. It just seems like you guys like to do that.

"You guys"? I'm a Republican...

No my comment wasn't directed directly at you I was just addressing your point. Sorry if you misunderstood.

Enough is Enough I have seen some of this rhetoric on this thread and I just got fed up with it over the past few days.

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

This thread is going about as well as you'd expect.

[Simfan34]

I did not attend.

But the fact is the "GOP outreach" remains too often condescending and critical rather than offering a viable alternative. I haven't had the time to re-read on Paul Ryan's plan but it might be a step in the right direction, I've heard good things about it.

[hopper]

It's not just the Blunt Amendment, the House GOP last year also tried to carve contraception requirement out of the ACA and even made it part of their pre-shutdown list of demands. And let's not forget what Mike Huckabee had to say about it....
"If the Democrats want to insult the women of America by making them believe that they are helpless without Uncle Sugar coming in and providing for them a prescription each month for birth control, because they cannot control their libido or their reproductive system without the help of the government, then so be it.”
Which gets back to the point. The GOP have to stop treating everyone who isnt a strait Christian middle/upper-class white male as someone looking for a handout.

So what's the big deal about the contraception. Its like moderately overblown by you Dems. You can get contraception at a local clinic, your doctors office probably or Planned Parenthood. Look I have said this a few times Huckabee's comment was a little on the sloppy side.

No the GOP does not think that everybody that is not a white Christian male wants a hand-out. I don't know where you guys on the other side of the aisle get this theory from.

I have pounded the GOP for their stupid tactics since I have been on this site even on this thread I have questioned their policy choices/rhetoric. Some of the liberal dems rhetoric its to over the top for me. I pounded them(the GOP) for not understanding Latino's and their way of life in terms of family that they fail to understand as a party or most of them don't get. For example Ann Coulter had no idea about Latino's yesterday at CPAC. I was around Latino's for 4.5 years when I was at a job so I understand them.