Plane with 239 people on board crashes in Southern Indian Ocean

[Paul Kemp]

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/missing-jet/radar-shows-plane-deliberately-flew-toward-indian-ocean-reports-n52561

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The article also mentions that scientists at the University of Science and Technology of China report that they detected a "seismic event" consistent with a plane crash "on the sea floor close to where the missing jet disappeared from civilian radar screens" at 2:55am, which would have been ~90 minutes after the plane was last seen by civilian radar.

I don't buy this - planes generally don't hit the bottom like the Titanic.

And I kind of agree with Ernest here, why would anyone with a motive to proclaim bring the plane down in a way that it can't be found?

There is something seriously fishy about this whole thing and frankly I'm having a hard time thinking of plausible scenarios.

Maybe there's someone on the plane named Gilligan, so now they're marooned somewhere?

Nope.

[Mr. Morden]

On that seismic event:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/rival-theories-on-malaysia-flights-disappearance/2014/03/14/1bf1d5d6-abb5-11e3-b8ca-197ef3568958_story.html

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[Mr. Morden]

The theories are getting increasingly wild:

link

[HagridOfTheDeep]

I know it's extremely unlikely, but I'm sort of worried we will be seeing this plane again in a not-so-nice way.

[Napoleon]

Its in orbit at this point. Will be hard to locate.

[DINGO Joe]

Malaysian now saying the flight was hijacked and that it's not a theory, it's "conclusive".  

http://news.yahoo.com/malaysian-investigators-conclude-flight-hijacked-035744022.html

I'm sure the "conclusive" part is subject to change

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

Malaysian now saying the flight was hijacked and that it's not a theory, it's "conclusive".  

http://news.yahoo.com/malaysian-investigators-conclude-flight-hijacked-035744022.html

I'm sure the "conclusive" part is subject to change

Everything from the Malaysians has been subject to change.

[MaxQue]

Malaysian now saying the flight was hijacked and that it's not a theory, it's "conclusive".  

http://news.yahoo.com/malaysian-investigators-conclude-flight-hijacked-035744022.html

I'm sure the "conclusive" part is subject to change

Everything from the Malaysians has been subject to change.

And I'm pretty than once it's finished, some people involved in that inquiry will be subject to change, since they are not very competent.

[Mr. Morden]

If it is some kind of hijacking, how many people would need to be involved?  Someone probably has some counterexamples, but it's hard for me to see how one man could hijack a commercial airliner by himself.  Even if he has a weapon, it would be too easy to be overpowered by the other passengers.  I'd assume you'd need at least three or four.

If authorities know the identity of everyone on the plane, then you can piece together which passengers would have known each other, and I'd imagine that there's a fairly limited number of suspects, especially since it sounds like the supposed hijacker(s) had sophisticated knowledge regarding the transponder, where to fly to, etc.

[Mr. Morden]

On the other hand, reading this: http://www.wired.com/autopia/2014/03/malaysian-airlines-flight-370-possibly-hijacked/

it sounds like hijacking a commercial flight might be easier than you would think.

[Mr. Morden]

Here's the plane's range:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/new-twist-in-the-hunt-for-missing-plane/2014/03/13/dcee10da-aae6-11e3-98f6-8e3c562f9996_graphic.html



If it really had 7 hours worth of fuel, than anywhere within the outer circle shown above is possible.

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

It's a hijacking no doubt. They'll find it. Patience.

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

It's a hijacking no doubt. They'll find it. Patience.

To me, in some ways, it's just too perfect.

Even though it was a night time flight... some passengers would have known something was wrong. No phone calls? Flight-crews are very well trained when it comes to hijackings... if anyone knew something was wrong they did... and they didn't act? Or try to get a message out?

I mean, flying for 7.5 hours ... did they incapacitate 230 people?

[Mr. Morden]

Even though it was a night time flight... some passengers would have known something was wrong. No phone calls? Flight-crews are very well trained when it comes to hijackings... if anyone knew something was wrong they did... and they didn't act? Or try to get a message out?

If the hijacking happened when they were out over the ocean, there'd be no way for them to call out, no?  I mean, you need a cell tower nearby for your phone to work.  Yes, they apparently doubled back and briefly flew over land again for a while, but I don't know how populated that area is, if their phones would have worked.

Also, according to this: http://time.com/25814/report-flight-370-shifted-altitude-and-path-after-dropping-contact/

they think the plane went all the way up to 45,000 feet before descending again.  It's possible they were trying to disorient the passengers.

[Zanas]

It's a hijacking no doubt. They'll find it. Patience.

To me, in some ways, it's just too perfect.

Even though it was a night time flight... some passengers would have known something was wrong. No phone calls? Flight-crews are very well trained when it comes to hijackings... if anyone knew something was wrong they did... and they didn't act? Or try to get a message out?

I mean, flying for 7.5 hours ... did they incapacitate 230 people?

Why not ? If they were like half a dozen, they could well kill 230 people. See Breivik.

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

It's a hijacking no doubt. They'll find it. Patience.

To me, in some ways, it's just too perfect.

Even though it was a night time flight... some passengers would have known something was wrong. No phone calls? Flight-crews are very well trained when it comes to hijackings... if anyone knew something was wrong they did... and they didn't act? Or try to get a message out?

I mean, flying for 7.5 hours ... did they incapacitate 230 people?

Why not ? If they were like half a dozen, they could well kill 230 people. See Breivik.

Again, there are explanations, but it just all seems so odd... Why bother hijacking a plane if you didn't intend to announce it? If your intention wasn't to actually kill everyone ... would you do something to damage the plane if you intended to use it?

All of these things in isolation have explanations, but together, they fit together far too well.

[ilikeverin]

Searchers are looking at two corridors for the plane: a Northern corridor to the *stans, and a Southern corridor to the Andamans.

Obviously, if they were heading towards the *stans, they probably didn't get all that far, unless India et al. have been participating in a massive cover-up.  The Andamans seem remote enough that they'd be more likely, although what on earth would a hijacker be doing going there?  Some sort of really weirdly convoluted murder-suicide type thing?

[Mr. Morden]

Something to keep in mind (from that Wired article I linked to earlier):

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[Tender Branson]

I give up on this.

They'll probably never find it, or they are just covering stuff up because they don't want to admit what happened.

[Silent Hunter]

I give up on this.

They'll probably never find it, or they are just covering stuff up because they don't want to admit what happened.

I think someone will stumble on the wreckage at some point.

[Mr. Morden]

I give up on this.

They'll probably never find it, or they are just covering stuff up because they don't want to admit what happened.

They'll investigate the lives of the passengers who have any technical know-how about flying, and could potentially pull off a hijacking.  If it really was some kind of a hijacking, then there's a decent chance that there was advance planning, and clues left behind by whoever pulled it off.

If there was no hijacking…..then yeah, they may never find it.

[Sbane]

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/missing-jet/radar-shows-plane-deliberately-flew-toward-indian-ocean-reports-n52561

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The article also mentions that scientists at the University of Science and Technology of China report that they detected a "seismic event" consistent with a plane crash "on the sea floor close to where the missing jet disappeared from civilian radar screens" at 2:55am, which would have been ~90 minutes after the plane was last seen by civilian radar.

I don't buy this - planes generally don't hit the bottom like the Titanic.

And I kind of agree with Ernest here, why would anyone with a motive to proclaim bring the plane down in a way that it can't be found?

There is something seriously fishy about this whole thing and frankly I'm having a hard time thinking of plausible scenarios.

Someone who doesn't want the plane to be found. I doubt this is terrorism, at least in the traditional sense. Either it is some psychological problem with the pilots, or someone wants something from one of the passengers. It is quite possible the plane landed somewhere. You don't necessarily need a big, fancy runway to land a plane.

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

The latest rumour ... sigh, is that the Indian Military night have shot it down over the Andaman Islands ... unresponsive passenger liner, heading towards its large-scale military and space facilities...

[Middle-aged Europe]

Must be posted for obvious reasons:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQDUtjwoaTY

[DINGO Joe]

Bloomberg sez that the last satellite transmission was about 1,000 miles West of Perth Australia, but that it may have kept on going after that, except for a group of islands called the French Southern and Antarctic Lands there's nothing out there.  Really, it looks like an incredibly cruel elongated suicide.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-03-14/india-looking-for-malaysian-jet-as-u-s-sees-air-piracy.html