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Question: How would you vote on the Massachusetts upskirt photos ban?
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« on: March 09, 2014, 07:17:18 PM »
I suspect this is one of the few places where you'll have any significant number opposed, partially due to extreme libertarians and partially due to...well certain types of Atlas posters, refer back to Sandra Fluke threads.

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« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2014, 07:20:54 PM »
Nay (I/O)
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« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2014, 07:28:39 PM »
Aye (I/Not a f**king creep)
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« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2014, 07:30:16 PM »
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« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2014, 07:49:55 PM »
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« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2014, 08:05:55 PM »
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« Reply #6 on: March 09, 2014, 08:56:12 PM »
I'm torn, but lean Nay since stupid bans like this are generally useless.
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« Reply #7 on: March 09, 2014, 10:25:17 PM »
Quote from: ElectionsGuy on March 09, 2014, 08:56:12 PM
I'm torn, but lean Nay since stupid bans like this are generally useless.
Went aye, but like he said, this is a common sense thing.
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« Reply #8 on: March 09, 2014, 11:03:50 PM »
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« Reply #9 on: March 10, 2014, 08:50:21 AM »
Nay, as a protest against this poll.
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« Reply #10 on: March 10, 2014, 01:21:27 PM »
Nay (I/O), because freedom.
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« Reply #11 on: March 10, 2014, 02:22:22 PM »
If it is what it sounds like it is, Aye.
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« Reply #12 on: March 10, 2014, 02:42:52 PM »
Nay (R). The freedoms we once took for granted in this great land have now become so confined and scarce that I can't even consider a single additional regulation on my behavior for fear that it would be the death knell of American Liberty.
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« Reply #13 on: March 10, 2014, 03:00:20 PM »
Aye (D).  Normally I'd vote contrary to what I believe in protest of these polls, but since there are folks here who are actually against this law...
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« Reply #14 on: March 10, 2014, 10:56:01 PM »

...the freedom to violate someone else's privacy?
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« Reply #15 on: March 10, 2014, 11:08:41 PM »
Quote from: Senator TNF on March 10, 2014, 10:56:01 PM

...the freedom to violate someone else's privacy?
How is it a violation of privacy to take a picture of someone in a public place?
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« Reply #16 on: March 10, 2014, 11:21:19 PM »
Quote from: Rep. Deus on March 10, 2014, 11:08:41 PM
Quote from: Senator TNF on March 10, 2014, 10:56:01 PM

...the freedom to violate someone else's privacy?
How is it a violation of privacy to take a picture of someone in a public place?

To take a photo up someone's skirt? I feel like that might be a bridge too far, honestly. I mean I guess it would be different if the person in question is completely aware of the fact that they're 'broadcasting' but it seems a little f**king creepy to be taking pictures of people without their consent. We wouldn't want the state doing this, would we? I guess I need more of a context of what the law in question specifically bans, but I don't find it entirely objectionable to ban non-consensual photography of peoples' private parts (clothed or unclothed), for obvious reasons.
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« Reply #17 on: March 10, 2014, 11:28:46 PM »
Actually conflicted. On the one hand, this sort of behavior should definitely be illegal, but on the other hand I feel like it's probably covered by preexisting sexual harassment law and having a specific law is probably an invitation to frivolous lawsuits. Lean Aye (R ), but would like to know some context of why this is being brought up now in MA. Didn't vote.
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« Reply #18 on: March 10, 2014, 11:41:41 PM »
Quote from: Vosem on March 10, 2014, 11:28:46 PM
Actually conflicted. On the one hand, this sort of behavior should definitely be illegal, but on the other hand I feel like it's probably covered by preexisting sexual harassment law and having a specific law is probably an invitation to frivolous lawsuits. Lean Aye (R ), but would like to know some context of why this is being brought up now in MA. Didn't vote.

Because the State Supreme Court ruled that the current law (which of course was written decades ago) did not specifically prohibit it. So while you'd think the first part of your post per the court that's not true.
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« Reply #19 on: March 11, 2014, 10:20:36 AM »
Quote from: ElectionsGuy on March 09, 2014, 08:56:12 PM
I'm torn, but lean Nay since stupid bans like this are generally useless.

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« Reply #20 on: March 11, 2014, 11:01:55 AM »
The absolute stupidity displayed by some in this thread amazes me.
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« Reply #21 on: March 11, 2014, 11:51:43 AM »
Just to clarify for some who apparently don't have google.

Upskirting is taking a camera, and then going under a woman who's wearing a Skirt legs, then taking a picture below.

That is just nasty.
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« Reply #22 on: March 11, 2014, 02:34:00 PM »
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« Reply #23 on: March 11, 2014, 06:01:31 PM »
Aye (D). Saying that this does not violate privacy because it's done in a public place is missing the point. A woman does not expect her undergarments to be seen in ordinary circumstances, so placing a camera in a particular spot does violate her privacy.

Quote from: Vosem on March 10, 2014, 11:28:46 PM
having a specific law is probably an invitation to frivolous lawsuits.

How so? Do you mean that someone takes a picture without ill intent, and it happens to show underwear/buttcrack/cleavage/etc., and that person sues?
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« Reply #24 on: March 11, 2014, 07:37:34 PM »
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wtf

Aye (D)         -27 (50.9%)
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That's the real wtf.  Not a single D so far has treated this poll as the joke it is.  (Or if they did, they thought Aye was the joke vote.)
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