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Yes.
 
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No. It should be divided between France, the Netherlands and Germany based on linguistic demographics.
 
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No. It should merge with the Netherlands and Luxembourg to create a complete Benelux state.
 
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No. (Other solution. Explain.)
 
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« on: March 09, 2014, 08:13:21 PM »





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« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2014, 08:17:01 PM »

If the Belgians want to stay together, yes.
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« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2014, 08:17:36 PM »

If the Belgians want to stay together, yes.

This. It's literally no one's business but the Belgians'
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« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2014, 08:19:39 PM »

If the Belgians want to stay together, yes.

This. It's literally no one's business but the Belgians'
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« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2014, 08:33:21 PM »

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« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2014, 09:31:40 PM »

How Can Waffles Be Real If Belgium Isn't Real
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« Reply #6 on: March 09, 2014, 09:32:14 PM »

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« Reply #7 on: March 09, 2014, 09:32:32 PM »

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« Reply #8 on: March 09, 2014, 11:20:33 PM »

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« Reply #9 on: March 09, 2014, 11:28:04 PM »

If the Belgians want it to exist, then it can exist, though I'm not sure if they want it to these days...
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« Reply #10 on: March 10, 2014, 12:17:30 AM »


Yes, mindless blockquoters, nobody is suggesting that someone should choose on behalf of the Belgians. Thanks for demolishing that strawman.

The question is whether your own personal opinion is that Belgium should continue to exist.
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« Reply #11 on: March 10, 2014, 12:52:12 AM »
« Edited: March 10, 2014, 12:56:56 AM by Lіef »

that picture of a waffle is the least belgian thing I've ever seen

I personally find it deeply offensive...
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« Reply #12 on: March 10, 2014, 07:41:43 AM »

I'm of the opinion that the independence of Belgium was a disaster. But honestly today I see little reason to disolve the state.
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« Reply #13 on: March 10, 2014, 08:47:40 AM »

Of course not.  It was an illegal separatist clique backed by a foreign power who had designs on annexing the territory itself which caused the separation in the first place.  Hopefully, this can be reversed or at the very least Crimea Belgium should remain independent rather than being annexed by its larger neighbor. Wink
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« Reply #14 on: March 10, 2014, 09:06:39 AM »
« Edited: March 11, 2014, 11:09:55 AM by MOP »

"Benelux" is a cool name. Now I have no idea how well unifying Netherlands, Belgium, and Luxembourg would go, but if the state of Benelux were at all practical, I would be for it.
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« Reply #15 on: March 10, 2014, 09:51:40 AM »

I'm surprised there is no option of each region forming its own state, without being annexed.

Though whatever should happen, it's entirely up to the Belgians, therefore I don't feel right to give any opinion here.
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« Reply #16 on: March 10, 2014, 09:54:22 AM »

Certainly the dress sense of the average Belgian should not exist.
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« Reply #17 on: March 10, 2014, 10:52:39 AM »

Yes.
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« Reply #18 on: March 10, 2014, 10:57:08 AM »

Of course, why not?
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« Reply #19 on: March 10, 2014, 01:42:09 PM »


Yes, mindless blockquoters, nobody is suggesting that someone should choose on behalf of the Belgians. Thanks for demolishing that strawman.

The question is whether your own personal opinion is that Belgium should continue to exist.

Having an opinion about something isn't the same as trying to control someone? 
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« Reply #20 on: March 10, 2014, 01:47:22 PM »

Not that it matters, it's Europe. There are about two borders on this planet that matter.
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« Reply #21 on: March 10, 2014, 03:37:59 PM »

 No. It should be divided between France, the Netherlands and Germany based on linguistic demographics.

And of course, it's Belgium's business.
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« Reply #22 on: March 10, 2014, 07:29:16 PM »

I want the Austro-Hungarian empire back. Belgium and Crimea can join if they wish to. Seriously, my opinion is that all nations are artificial by definition and they exist until they cease to exist and don't exist because they should exist, but because of historical circumstances. I don't know if I am being clear enough.
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« Reply #23 on: March 10, 2014, 08:52:30 PM »

Maybe this should have gone in political debate.

I was not asking this as a hypothetical where you personally have the power to arbitrarily destroy countries by fiat.

I was asking this in the same sense that a discussion was had earlier about whether or not Ukraine should be divided into two countries.

Belgium has had a longstanding, albeit not a violent, tension between its Flemish and French speaking populations. One of the major reasons for Belgium's creation - that Dutch-speaking Catholics in the southern Netherlands were being oppressed by a very dogmatic Protestant monarch - is obviously not relevant in a largely post-religious Western Europe. In this context, does the modern linguistic tension and the somewhat asymmetric economic development between Flanders and Wallonia provide a reason for the country to dissolve that outweighs the historic rationales for its creation?
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« Reply #24 on: March 11, 2014, 10:51:39 AM »

But Flanders is not Dutch and Wallonia is not French.
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