Would Hillary Clinton win Missouri if she picked Dick Gephardt (D-MO)?
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« on: March 10, 2014, 10:11:48 AM »

Would Hillary Clinton win Missouri in 2016, if she picked former congressman Dick Gephardt? Would he be old news for the Democratic party? Is a cabinet position better for him?
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« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2014, 11:49:09 AM »

I really don’t see the point in picking a lobbyist who served in Congress 12 years ago. If she wants to balance the ticket with a politician from Missouri, she would be better served with Jay Nixon or Claire McCaskill.
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« Reply #2 on: March 10, 2014, 12:00:20 PM »

I really don’t see the point in picking a lobbyist who served in Congress 12 years ago. If she wants to balance the ticket with a politician from Missouri, she would be better served with Jay Nixon or Claire McCaskill.
Good luck convincing Hillary to do that.
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« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2014, 12:04:26 PM »

I really don’t see the point in picking a lobbyist who served in Congress 12 years ago. If she wants to balance the ticket with a politician from Missouri, she would be better served with Jay Nixon or Claire McCaskill.
Good luck convincing Hillary to do that.

Still a better option than Dick Gephardt. But Nixon would probably be a better candidate than McCaskill.
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« Reply #4 on: March 10, 2014, 12:08:57 PM »

He's old news and VP choices don't count for much.
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« Reply #5 on: March 10, 2014, 01:35:16 PM »

Clinton/Nixon would be the ultimate corrupt ticket of the modern era.
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« Reply #6 on: March 10, 2014, 01:36:45 PM »

Clinton/Nixon would be the ultimate corrupt ticket of the modern era.
You do know which Nixon he means?
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« Reply #7 on: March 10, 2014, 03:37:38 PM »

Not going to happen.
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« Reply #8 on: March 10, 2014, 03:58:48 PM »

I really don’t see the point in picking a lobbyist who served in Congress 12 years ago. If she wants to balance the ticket with a politician from Missouri, she would be better served with Jay Nixon or Claire McCaskill.

This.

Also, she'll have a very good chance of winning it even without someone from Missouri as her running mate.
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« Reply #9 on: March 10, 2014, 05:16:57 PM »

If she's going to pick someone from Missouri, it's Jay Nixon.
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« Reply #10 on: March 10, 2014, 07:12:16 PM »

I really don’t see the point in picking a lobbyist who served in Congress 12 years ago. If she wants to balance the ticket with a politician from Missouri, she would be better served with Jay Nixon or Claire McCaskill.

This.

Also, she'll have a very good chance of winning it even without someone from Missouri as her running mate.

Indeed. The Democrats doesn’t need Missouri’s electoral votes to win the presidency.
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« Reply #11 on: March 10, 2014, 09:06:44 PM »

A Clinton/Gephardt ticket would have me seriously mulling the implications of Speaker John Boehner ascending to the presidency at some point.

Might as well have Jerry Brown as her running mate. Or Bob Kerrey.
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« Reply #12 on: March 11, 2014, 09:33:19 AM »

No for several reasons.

1. Obama lost Missouri by more than nine points in a good year for the Democratic party. Hillary Clinton can't realistically be expected to make that up, nor is it necessary.
2. Dick Gephardt will be in his Mid-70s. That will likely hurt the ticket nationally, which would limit the ticket's effectiveness in Missouri.
3. Vice Presidential candidates can be worth a few points in a key swing state. But the max is about four points with an immensely popular statewide officeholder.
4. Gephardt did not serve in statewide office so the home state advantage will be diminished.
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« Reply #13 on: March 13, 2014, 07:01:07 PM »

Concur with Mr.  Mets.  In raw margin terms, the Rs went from winning by 3,903 in 2008 to winning by 258,644 in 2012. At the Pres level, Dems have lost the rural strength that enabled George McGovern to carry Monroe County (Paris).

Gephardt's old district 3 (Caucasian St. Louis) does not even exist anymore -- it was collapsed into the Bill Clay district 1. Gephardt never ran for statewide office.

If a Missourian goes on the D ticket in 2016, (Gov. Jay) Nixon's The One...wouldn't that be a slogan!
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« Reply #14 on: March 16, 2014, 03:24:46 AM »

He's how old?
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« Reply #15 on: March 16, 2014, 08:09:20 AM »


73.

And yes, the guy was already such a yesterday news when he ran for the last time in 2004. Beside, it's better to pick a statewide elected official than a former Congressman, never elected beyond his district.
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« Reply #16 on: December 06, 2014, 07:45:41 PM »

A Clinton/Gephardt 2016 ticket would probably be a dull ticket. Two Democrats that voted for the Iraq War, which still is a angry issue for voters would be on the news, and Gephardt would be old. But heck, some people want Jerry Brown to run for president in 2016, so anything can happen. I don't know if anyone in Missouri remembers Gephardt well too, but oh well.
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« Reply #17 on: December 07, 2014, 12:22:20 PM »

No, after Feguson, MO is gone=best to go for the Goldwater West instead of Ohio River Valley to win the prez, someone like Webb-Kaine-Warner-Hickenlooper mold.
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« Reply #18 on: December 07, 2014, 01:44:42 PM »

This isn't 2004.
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« Reply #19 on: December 07, 2014, 06:26:46 PM »


I know that. Gephardt could help with the union vote that Democrats need. Although he's been out of office for a decade, union members still like him.
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« Reply #20 on: December 07, 2014, 06:27:48 PM »

Good idea, but I think she is going to pick someone far younger.
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« Reply #21 on: December 07, 2014, 08:39:03 PM »


I know that. Gephardt could help with the union vote that Democrats need. Although he's been out of office for a decade, union members still like him.

Proof please, or not buying it.
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« Reply #22 on: December 17, 2014, 12:23:37 AM »

I don't think a running mate from Missouri would help her in the state that much. Either way, I don't see MO going democratic except in a landslide.
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« Reply #23 on: December 18, 2014, 11:14:35 AM »


I know that. Gephardt could help with the union vote that Democrats need. Although he's been out of office for a decade, union members still like him.

Dick Gephardt struggled to find any real support in 2004, was held in contempt by most of the party during his tenure as Minority Leader, and is a fossil now, especially given that Clinton is already on the elderly side. Clinton needs someone from the next generation, not an even older boomer.
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« Reply #24 on: December 21, 2014, 06:21:41 PM »

Well, at least Gephardt didn't take 13 years to say his support for the Iraq war was a mistake, but how about a ticket where neither made that idiotic mistake?
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