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« on: March 10, 2014, 11:04:16 AM »

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2014/03/10/nkorea-election/6247491/

They're going overboard... Hitler wasn't elected with 100% of the vote, Saddam wasn't elected with 100% of the vote, electing a  dictator (or anyone else) with 100% of the vote makes the country in question weaker.
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« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2014, 11:07:32 AM »

Are you at all familiar with the North Korean 'voting' system? This is the way it's been done for a long time now.

Also, you're wrong about Hitler and Saddam.
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« Reply #2 on: March 10, 2014, 11:44:52 AM »

I'm sure Kim Jong Un will take heed of the opinion of a useless spammer on the internets and start holding free elections now.
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« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2014, 11:55:33 AM »

Who didn't predict this again?
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« Reply #4 on: March 10, 2014, 12:07:28 PM »

Are you at all familiar with the North Korean 'voting' system? This is the way it's been done for a long time now.

Also, you're wrong about Hitler and Saddam.

Technically not 100%.
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« Reply #5 on: March 10, 2014, 02:45:09 PM »

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2014/03/10/nkorea-election/6247491/

They're going overboard... Hitler wasn't elected with 100% of the vote, Saddam wasn't elected with 100% of the vote, electing a  dictator (or anyone else) with 100% of the vote makes the country in question weaker.

Being run by despotic crackpots whose minds are divorced from reality and don't give a crap about their people is what makes them weaker. This is a nation whose propaganda reported that their previous leader's birth was heralded by a swallow, caused winter to change to spring, a star to illuminate the sky, and the spontaneous appearance of a double rainbow and gave him no less than fifty four titles including "Glorious General, Who Descended From Heaven" and "Dear Leader, who is a perfect incarnation of the appearance that a leader should have". But this is what you think makes them weaker? Their "elections" have gone this way for decades, and this results surprises nobody.
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« Reply #6 on: March 10, 2014, 02:53:49 PM »

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2014/03/10/nkorea-election/6247491/

They're going overboard... Hitler wasn't elected with 100% of the vote, Saddam wasn't elected with 100% of the vote, electing a  dictator (or anyone else) with 100% of the vote makes the country in question weaker.

Are you like five years old or something? North Korea has been like that for 60 years.
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« Reply #7 on: March 10, 2014, 04:04:44 PM »
« Edited: March 10, 2014, 04:09:17 PM by The Vorlon »

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2014/03/10/nkorea-election/6247491/

They're going overboard... Hitler wasn't elected with 100% of the vote, Saddam wasn't elected with 100% of the vote, electing a  dictator (or anyone else) with 100% of the vote makes the country in question weaker.

Actually Hitler was (approximately) elected/appointed in a legitimate election.

In the July 1932 German elections Hitler's  National Socialist German Workers' Party (Nazi) party won 230 out of 608 seats in the German REichstag, and were the largest party.

The two non-democratic parties (The Nazis and the Communists - who refused to work together, or with anybody else for that matter) between them held an absolute majority so the Reichstad was non-functional and no stable government could be formed.

President Hindenburg (Who had indeed be legitimately elected when he defeated Hitler in the 1932 elections) appointed Hitler Reich Chancellor at the head of a cabinet including only a minority of Nazi ministers on January 30th, 1933.

Needless to say, things go rather less democratic in German going forward......

NOTE: - In the german system the President was elected from all the people and has some "head of state" functions such as constituting a government within the Reichstag.  Hitler was appointed to a position more or less like Prime Minister in the British system

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« Reply #8 on: March 10, 2014, 04:21:59 PM »

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2014/03/10/nkorea-election/6247491/

They're going overboard... Hitler wasn't elected with 100% of the vote, Saddam wasn't elected with 100% of the vote, electing a  dictator (or anyone else) with 100% of the vote makes the country in question weaker.

Actually Hitler was (approximately) elected/appointed in a legitimate election.

He was probably talking about the German Federal Election of November 1933.
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« Reply #9 on: March 10, 2014, 07:22:26 PM »

Are you at all familiar with the North Korean 'voting' system? This is the way it's been done for a long time now.

Also, you're wrong about Hitler and Saddam.

Technically not 100%.

You're splitting hairs.
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« Reply #10 on: March 10, 2014, 07:32:21 PM »

I'm sure Kim Jong Un will take heed of the opinion of a useless spammer on the internets and start holding free elections now.
It happened in Egypt.
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« Reply #11 on: March 10, 2014, 07:38:34 PM »

What deep insight, New York Express. No one liner though? Sad
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« Reply #12 on: March 10, 2014, 07:42:45 PM »

It surprises me that they actually bother to hold elections at this point.
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« Reply #13 on: March 10, 2014, 07:51:53 PM »

Why wouldn't he be? Juche is love, Juche is life.
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« Reply #14 on: March 10, 2014, 07:58:50 PM »

Actually Hitler was (approximately) elected/appointed in a legitimate election.

Actually Hitler was never elected. He was appointed, technically speaking. Elections for Führer  and Reichskanzler never took place. Anyway 99% voted for NSDAP candidates and approved the Anschluss in the 1938 election. Truly remarkable. I feel a bit lazy, so I won't search for the results of the Bulgarian communist conventions. All hail the Supreme Leader!
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« Reply #15 on: March 10, 2014, 08:14:22 PM »

Just like in North Korea, legislative candidates in the United States are routinely elected with 100% of the vote.
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« Reply #16 on: March 10, 2014, 08:28:15 PM »

They're going overboard... Hitler wasn't elected with 100% of the vote, Saddam wasn't elected with 100% of the vote, electing a  dictator (or anyone else) with 100% of the vote makes the country in question weaker.

You're right.  Now other world leaders might start to question whether the election was legitimate.  99.8% would've been a far more reasonable margin of victory.
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« Reply #17 on: March 11, 2014, 12:36:34 AM »

I'm sure Kim Jong Un will take heed of the opinion of a useless spammer on the internets and start holding free elections now.

Kim Jong Un, pictured below, filled with shame upon his examination of a scathing editorial featured in the New York Express

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« Reply #18 on: March 11, 2014, 02:26:56 AM »



Actually Hitler was (approximately) elected/appointed in a legitimate election.

He was probably talking about the German Federal Election of November 1933.

The problem was the moderate heroes (including a party named the German Centre Party) who voted to make Hitler dictator earlier in the year. You were a communist, a socialist, or a Hitler supporter. It was that simple.
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« Reply #19 on: March 11, 2014, 11:37:53 AM »

I'm sure Kim Jong Un will take heed of the opinion of a useless spammer on the internets and start holding free elections now.

Kim Jong Un, pictured below, filled with shame upon his examination of a scathing editorial featured in the New York Express


Even if that was supposed to be an insult, I found it hilarious...
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« Reply #20 on: March 12, 2014, 11:56:52 AM »

I'm sure Kim Jong Un will take heed of the opinion of a useless spammer on the internets and start holding free elections now.

This is what I call an epic burn.
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« Reply #21 on: March 12, 2014, 12:02:00 PM »

NYE and the North Korea State News Agency are actually pretty similar though. Like check out the headlines: http://www.kcna.co.jp/index-e.htm

They're of about equal relevance and importance to NYE's latest threads.
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« Reply #22 on: March 12, 2014, 02:02:25 PM »

I think the more interesting discussion is this:

If you were a North Korean and legitimately had the choice between voting "yes" or "no," how would you vote? It seems like citizens do have a choice on their ballot... it's just reported that they all voted yes.

Would you have the balls to vote "no?" I probably wouldn't.
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« Reply #23 on: March 12, 2014, 02:18:37 PM »

Are the ballots secret, or does the government know who cast what?
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« Reply #24 on: March 12, 2014, 02:20:00 PM »

I think the more interesting discussion is this:

If you were a North Korean and legitimately had the choice between voting "yes" or "no," how would you vote? It seems like citizens do have a choice on their ballot... it's just reported that they all voted yes.

Would you have the balls to vote "no?" I probably wouldn't.

You need to go to a "separate booth" (without secrecy) and manually cross out the name of the official candidate in order to vote 'no'. I suppose the 'separate booth' is a cheap euphemism for 'one-way bus trip to the local gulag'.
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