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« on: March 10, 2014, 03:32:17 PM »

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/03/10/61-of-young-republicans-favor-same-sex-marriage

18-29 year old Republicans and Republican-leaners support giving gays the right to marry.

What's interesting is that there's only a 16% difference from young Democrats, of which 77% support gay marriage, to young Republicans which shows how much of a generational issue it is.
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« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2014, 03:36:13 PM »

See young Republicans aren't idiots. They can see where the future of their party needs to be headed.
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« Reply #2 on: March 10, 2014, 03:46:53 PM »

Good news.
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« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2014, 03:58:20 PM »

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/03/10/61-of-young-republicans-favor-same-sex-marriage

18-29 year old Republicans and Republican-leaners support giving gays the right to marry.

What's interesting is that there's only a 16% difference from young Democrats, of which 77% support gay marriage, to young Republicans which shows how much of a generational issue it is.

The curtain will be going down on the putrid stage show known as homophobia. The hook is beginning to show on the stage.
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« Reply #4 on: March 10, 2014, 04:05:40 PM »

The Oregon GOP just voted to endorse the ballot measure OKing SSM
http://www.oregonlive.com/mapes/index.ssf/2014/03/republicans_at_dorchester_conf.html

A candidate arguing in favor stated:"I believe this is a wedge issue that forces young people into the Democratic Party's hands"

And the famous GOP "Autopsy" of the 2012 election stated "Already, there is a generational difference within the conservative movement about issues involving the treatment and the rights of gays — and for many younger voters, this issue is a gateway into whether the party is a place they want to be."

Simply put, the GOP is at risk of losing a generation of voters if they keep fighting SSM. Some in the party clearly get it but then you have the all those "religious freedom" bills like in AZ and the IN legislature voting to super-double ban SSM, so clearly some have not yet got the memo.
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« Reply #5 on: March 10, 2014, 04:19:17 PM »

Obviously.  Lol at the people who voted 16-20 years in the poll about the Republican party being against gay marriage.  This issue is dying quickly. 
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« Reply #6 on: March 10, 2014, 04:36:03 PM »

Obviously.  Lol at the people who voted 16-20 years in the poll about the Republican party being against gay marriage.  This issue is dying quickly. 

It's not dead yet and there are those who are stubbornly hoping for a recovery.
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« Reply #7 on: March 10, 2014, 04:38:08 PM »

Obviously.  Lol at the people who voted 16-20 years in the poll about the Republican party being against gay marriage.  This issue is dying quickly. 

It's not like 18-29 year olds are an important demographic to capture in Republican primaries though. Most of the voters will be old cranky white men.
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« Reply #8 on: March 10, 2014, 04:43:02 PM »

But what is their belief on marihuana?
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« Reply #9 on: March 10, 2014, 04:48:16 PM »

It's not dead yet and there are those who are stubbornly hoping for a recovery.

Well, they're hoping in vain.  And I should have been clearer.  Obviously, there will be people who oppose it for years to come.  But the Republican candidates will not oppose it.  They will support it before the party dies.  A few candidates that are considered fringe may still continue to oppose it as well, but by the end of the decade most of the Republican candidates will support it. 



It's not like 18-29 year olds are an important demographic to capture in Republican primaries though. Most of the voters will be old cranky white men.

The candidates will still have to appeal to moderates and independents in the general election though.  There will be more Republican supporters of gay marriage in 2016, and in 2020 a majority of Republicans will support it. 
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« Reply #10 on: March 10, 2014, 04:48:59 PM »

Politics has never really been Republican vs. Democrat? It's young vs. old; man vs woman; affluent vs non-affluent; etc.

Men are generally against same sex marriage. Women and old people are generally undermining legalization of marijuana. Sadly, the poor and elderly generally thwart reforms to their own faltering entitlements.
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« Reply #11 on: March 10, 2014, 04:58:00 PM »

It's not dead yet and there are those who are stubbornly hoping for a recovery.

If people understood what the Great Society has done to the United States, particularly the provisions that have cancelled middle class investment and productivity spending, the Democratic Party would not exist.

Republicans cling to the hope that people will one day understand, but the outlook is bleak. Furthermore, the party doesn't actually believe in the conservative ideology from which it derives power. They're basically trying to make an intelligent Democratic pitch, and then hope that swing voters put them in power. In 2012, they won independents by a wide margin, but they were overwhelmed by minorities. This has led to a new sort of depression, as the party realizes they are trying to make an intelligent argument, which leaves them stuck between a rock and a hard place.
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« Reply #12 on: March 10, 2014, 05:09:55 PM »

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/03/10/61-of-young-republicans-favor-same-sex-marriage

18-29 year old Republicans and Republican-leaners support giving gays the right to marry.

What's interesting is that there's only a 16% difference from young Democrats, of which 77% support gay marriage, to young Republicans which shows how much of a generational issue it is.

This is somewhat skewed by the racial composition of each party though.  Black democrats are far more anti-gay marriage than white Democrats, and black Democrats far outnumber black Republicans. 
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« Reply #13 on: March 10, 2014, 05:18:01 PM »

What influence do "Young Republicans" (I know that in politics-speak, young is anything under 50) have within the GOP? Very slight, I imagine, unless they are rich.
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« Reply #14 on: March 10, 2014, 05:32:37 PM »

If the GOP took the position of the Young Republicans, we'd have many more routes to victory than we do currently. They stuck with the platform that won Bush the election in 2000 way too long, ie the family values shtick against Clinton's indiscretions).
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« Reply #15 on: March 10, 2014, 06:14:14 PM »

How many Young Republicans are there, compared to Not-Young Republicans? More importantly,  what is their influence in the Republican Party?
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« Reply #16 on: March 10, 2014, 06:30:15 PM »

How many Young Republicans are there, compared to Not-Young Republicans? More importantly,  what is their influence in the Republican Party?

Depends on what part of the Republican machine you are referring to. The think tanks and policy wonks are almost universally aligned with young Republicans, who act more like neoliberals, anyway. The people in the RNC who control the rhetorical platform are more closely aligned with the Puritans.

Basically the exact opposite of the Democratic Party, where the rhetoric is mostly centrist and the policy initiatives are the worst version of socialism to ever afflict a North American electorate.
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« Reply #17 on: March 10, 2014, 06:42:30 PM »

How many Young Republicans are there, compared to Not-Young Republicans? More importantly,  what is their influence in the Republican Party?

Depends on what part of the Republican machine you are referring to. The think tanks and policy wonks are almost universally aligned with young Republicans, who act more like neoliberals, anyway. The people in the RNC who control the rhetorical platform are more closely aligned with the Puritans.

Basically the exact opposite of the Democratic Party, where the rhetoric is mostly centrist and the policy initiatives are the worst version of socialism to ever afflict a North American electorate.

Lmao, it is the exact opposite.
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« Reply #18 on: March 10, 2014, 07:24:56 PM »

How many Young Republicans are there, compared to Not-Young Republicans? More importantly,  what is their influence in the Republican Party?

It's not how much influence young Republicans have in the party today, but how much influence they will have in the future.
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« Reply #19 on: March 10, 2014, 07:27:57 PM »

How many Young Republicans are there, compared to Not-Young Republicans? More importantly,  what is their influence in the Republican Party?

It's not how much influence young Republicans have in the party today, but how much influence they will have in the future.

By the time they have any influence the courts will have settled the matter.  Stick a fork in this issue.  It's done.  Anyone that thinks we are going back to the days of states banning gay marriage is delusional.
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« Reply #20 on: March 10, 2014, 07:34:09 PM »

What influence do "Young Republicans" (I know that in politics-speak, young is anything under 50) have within the GOP? Very slight, I imagine, unless they are rich.

Someone's gotta volunteer to do the leg work, make the phone calls, man the offices, do constituent work, rack up favors, and wait around for a chance to run for something.
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« Reply #21 on: March 10, 2014, 09:08:19 PM »

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/03/10/61-of-young-republicans-favor-same-sex-marriage

18-29 year old Republicans and Republican-leaners support giving gays the right to marry.

What's interesting is that there's only a 16% difference from young Democrats, of which 77% support gay marriage, to young Republicans which shows how much of a generational issue it is.

This is somewhat skewed by the racial composition of each party though.  Black democrats are far more anti-gay marriage than white Democrats, and black Democrats far outnumber black Republicans. 
Although Black Democrats are more pro-gay than White Republicans
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« Reply #22 on: March 10, 2014, 09:23:52 PM »

Someone's gotta volunteer to do the leg work, make the phone calls, man the offices, do constituent work, rack up favors, and wait around for a chance to run for something.

Thanks for reminding me that Pat Buchanan, Lee Atwater, and Karl Rove all started off as "Young Republicans."
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« Reply #23 on: March 10, 2014, 09:35:40 PM »

Someone's gotta volunteer to do the leg work, make the phone calls, man the offices, do constituent work, rack up favors, and wait around for a chance to run for something.

Thanks for reminding me that Pat Buchanan, Lee Atwater, and Karl Rove all started off as "Young Republicans."

So did Hillary.  She was even President of them on her college campus.
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« Reply #24 on: March 10, 2014, 10:12:15 PM »

It really is game over on this issue. In 10-20 years, it'll not only be a fact of life, there won't be any significant organized opposition.
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