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« Reply #25 on: May 12, 2014, 07:49:56 PM »



The 5 other counties (4 countries) are left as an exercise for the reader.  Murray and Le Sueur narrowly missed this category, with two additional countries ending up a strong second.
The outlier counties are:

Red Lake (Green)
Lincoln (Gold)
Lyon (Lime)
Cottonwood (Blue)
Freeborn (Gold)
The near-outliers areL
Murray
Le Seuer.
And the plurality (or near plurality) foreign-born countries are:

Belgium
Canada-French
Czech
Denmark
Netherlands
Russia
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« Reply #26 on: May 12, 2014, 09:12:37 PM »

In 1940, the foreign stock (foreign born and children with at least one foreign-born parent) was:

Germany: 266,707
Sweden: 229,121
Norway: 228,965

Given this reality, why is there a perception (among some) that Minnesota is Norwegian?

Possible theories:

(1) German nationalism was discouraged after the two WW, and Germans are so ubiquitous that to be of German descent is almost the same as being of British descent as far as making one a non-hyphnenated-American;

(2) The Swedish-born were concentrated in the more cosmopolitan Twin Cities, and developed more of a Twin Cities identity, than a Swedish one;

(3) The Norwegian-born and descendants had a stronger (nationalist) identification with the dissolution of the Swedish-Norwegian monarchy in 1905.  Though Norway had its own parliament and government, foreign policy was under greater influence of the King, and Norway was denied its own diplomatic corps, which might be of significance among those who were not US citizens.
(4) About 1/4 of Norwegian immigration was to Minnesota, and combined with Wisconsin and North Dakota formed about 1/2 of all immigrants.   As rural areas depopulated, they would tend to migrate to the Twin Cities.  Milwaukee is ultra-German, and North Dakota has no large cities.  Chicago is too big, and more remote.  Seattle is a possibilities, but a long way away.

A larger share of Norwegians emigrated than any other country, including Ireland - so it is likely that there is a stronger identity with the emigrant community than other countries.  Everyone would know someone who moved to America, and this would strongly correlate with knowing someone who moved to Minnesota (or nearby).   Minnesota would be thought of as New Norway.

(5) Higher fertility, and more mixed marriages.  Based on the ratio of foreign-born among the foreign stock, this appears to be true, at least compared to the Swedish.

There were more mixed marriages between Norwegian-born persons and native-born.  These might have been between Ole who immigrated as a baby, and Lena who was born in the USA.  Even though they were of similar age, upbringing, and schooling, one would be counted by the census as native and the other foreign-born.  If it was a true mixed marriage, the offspring might consider themselves Norwegian if they grew up in a community with a strong Norwegian identity.  Mixed marriages essentially double the number of children per Norwegian person, at the risk of some dilution of identity.
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« Reply #27 on: May 14, 2014, 01:11:55 PM »
« Edited: May 16, 2014, 12:37:53 AM by jimrtex »

In 1910, there were around 65,000 Romanian-born in the US, with just over half in New York City.  This number was up almost 5-fold over 1900.  There were 20 times as many Italian-born.

But in Minneapolis, the Romanian-born outnumbered the Italian-born by more than 2 to 1.

In effect, this was similar to the Hmong and Somali populations of a century later: small national population, but with a noticeable concentration in the Twin Cities.

I tried to determine what had happened to this population, and it appeared to have disappeared.  The Orthodox churches in Minneapolis are in the northeast, and the Heritage Organization of Romanian Americans - Minnesota is in Vadnais Heights, and St.Paul and South St.Paul are considered to be the historical center of the Romanian community.

It turns out that the Romanian community in Minneapolis was primarily Jewish, while the Romanian population in St.Paul had been born in Hungary.  The 1910 census reported country of birth based on the international boundaries, so that most persons from Eastern Europe were from Germany, Russia, Austria, or Hungary, with only a small number from the southeast - Roumania, Bulgaria, Servia, Greece.

Europe in 1910 - Click for map

Nationwide, 63% of Roumanian-born persons used Yiddish, 33% used Roumanian, and 3% used German.  Among those gaining entry during the preceding decade, 90% used Yiddish.  It is likely that most were bilingual, using Yiddish within the Jewish community, and Roumanian with the larger community.  There was also likely different questioning between immigration authorities, and census officials.  It is more likely that there were Yiddish speakers working for immigration than for the census, and they may have been more interested in determining ethnicity, whether Polish, Volga German, or Jew, rather than place of birth.  In previous censuses, Polish-born persons were identified based on their language, even though Poland did not exist as a state at that time.  The 1900 Census even divided "Polish-born" among those born in the Austrian, German, and Russian portions (Minneapolis had a fairly even split, which was not typical for other locales).

In 1910. Polish with 49K speakers was 4th among foreign languages spoken in Minnesota, behind the Big 3 of German 408K, Swedish 282K, and Norwegian 281K; but ahead of Finnish 44K, French 44K, Danish 42K and Czech (Bohemian and Moravian) 33K.

19% of Swedish speakers lived in Minneapolis, 12% of Norwegians, and 8% of Germans.  46% of Yiddish speakers lived in Minneapolis, and 17% of Polish speakers.

The census shows the characterization of Minneapolis as a Swedish city and St.Paul as German was a matter of degree.  Minneapolis has 54K Swedish speakers, but St. Paul had 26K; and St.Paul had 50K German speakers, but Minneapolis had 32K.

Differences were often much larger for other languages.  St.Paul had twice as many Italian speakers (3253 vs 1646), and 2.5 times as many Magyar speakers (1032 vs 404), while Minneapolis had 16 times as many Slovak speakers (1444 vs. 88), 8 times as many Russian speakers (872 vs. 128), 12 times as many Slovenian speakers (747 vs 60), and 15 times as many Finnish speakers (1361 vs 89).

Numbers were not dissimilar, particularly when the difference in size of the two cities is taken into account, for Danish, French, Polish, Czech, and Yiddish speakers.

The Minneapolis Romanian shul was in Elliot Park.  It existed until 1958 when it merged with another synagogue and moved to St. Louis Park.  In 2011, that synagogue merged with another and moved to Minnetonka.  So it appears that the Romanian identity was gradually lost and subsumed within a Jewish identity.
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« Reply #28 on: May 15, 2014, 01:04:28 AM »

The 1910 Dominant Foreign-Born population is quite similar to that for 1940.  In effect the pattern of immigration had already been set.



Between 1910 and 1940, the only changes were:

Cass, Goodhue, Hubbard, Watonwan: Swedish -> Norwegian
Freeborn: Norwegian -> Danish
Lyon: German -> Belgium
Morrison, Ramsey: German -> Swedish
Murray: Norwegian -> German
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« Reply #29 on: May 29, 2014, 02:08:11 AM »

The 1910 Census distinguished between country of birth, and mother tongue.  This was somewhat of a difference from previous practice, which was too attribute nationality on the basis of language.  As a consequence, Polish-born disappeared between 1900 and 1910, replaced instead with Austrian-born, German-born, and Russian-born.

At a national level, the census bureau did produce cross-tables of language and place of birth.  For modern multilingual countries the distribution of immigrants to the US is not too dissimilar to the current distribution.

Belgium:

51% Flemish + 6% Dutch
33% French
3% German

Switzerland:

83% German
9% French
6% Italian

Finland:

86% Finnish
13% Swedish

For multinational states the results are quite interesting, and should be remembered when looking at 1910 census data:

Russia:

52% Yiddish
26% Polish
9% Lithuanian
8% German
2.5% Russian

Thus, someone who was born in Russia and had emigrated to the United States was quite unlikely to be Russian.

Germany:

90% German
8% Polish

Austria (of Austro-Hungarian Empire):

Polish 28%
Czech (Bohemian and Moravia): 19%
German 13%
Yiddish 11%
Slovenian 10%
Croatian 6%
Slovak 5%

Hungary:

Magyar 46%
Slovak 22%
German 15%
Yiddish 4%
Romanian 3%
Croatian 2%

Turkey in Europe:

Greek 38%
Bulgarian 18%
Syrian and Arabic 11%
Turkish 7%
Albanian 6%

Turkey in Asia:

Syrian and Arabic 47%
Armenian 37%
Greek 4%
Turkish 4%

South America:

Spanish 32%
Italian 22%
English 11%
German 8%
Portuguese 5%

In Minneapolis speakers of foreign languages:

Swedish 54,462
Norwegian 35,409
German 31,898
Polish 8,243
Yiddish 8,174
French 6,720
Danish 4,356
Czech (Bohemian and Moravian) 1649
Slovak 1,444
Finnish 1,360
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