SENATE BILL: Reforming Atlasian Public Health Act of 2014 (Debating)

[Sec. of State Superique]

Guys! Single-payer is compatible with Private Providers!

[bore]

Guys! Single-payer is compatible with Private Providers!

Hell, even an NHS system (which would be my preference) is.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

We have a largely sound system underlying the core of the system at present (dare I call it Nappycare? ).

I think we can have a debate over where the sliding scale should be of benefits or of premiums, and we certainly have to fix the problem with the wording of that once clause. There are some ideas that I think Lumine and Simfan were discussing that were good in the thread in the other board.

Also, I must say my heart is not in this fight like it would have been a few months ago because with the recent death of someone close to me in after spending five weeks in the hospital from what appears to be little more then negligence and incompetents, it hits just a little too close to home. So forgive me for taking a somewhat arms length approach to this as opposed to say 2009.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

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[TNF]

Is my amendment invisible? Are we going to get a vote on that?

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Is my amendment invisible? Are we going to get a vote on that?

I sent a PM to the Vice President about it, with link included, two days ago.

[Sopranos Republican]

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Sponsor Feedback: Hostile

Status: Senators, a vote on the above amendment is now open, please vote: AYE, NAY, Abstain.

[Goldwater]

NAY

[Lumine]

Nay.

[TNF]

Aye

[President Tyrion]

Aye

[Sec. of State Superique]

Aye

I thought you were better than that

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

Nay

[President Tyrion]

Aye

I thought you were better than that

We need healthcare reform, but I don't want to see us go to an HSA system. If we can find some middle ground, that would be great, but this bill pre-amendment does not jive with my desire to protect the healthcare of the many.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

NAY

[bore]

Aye

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Vote on Amendment 60:06 by TNF:

Aye (3): bore, TNF and TyriontheImperialist
Nay (4): Goldwater, Lumine, NC Yankee and shua
Abstain (0):

Didn't Vote (2): DC al Fine and Talleyrand
Vacant Seats (1): Mr. X

With four votes in the negative and only three in the affirmative, with time having expired, the VP may declare this amendment has having failed. 

[Talleyrand]

AYE FTR

[Lumine]

Well, it seems we're practically back at the start, and we are having massive problems with the constitutional aspect of the bill, the solvency of the current system, and what the current system even is. We currently have new organizations committed to study this (like the Health Care institute), so I am going to revive one of my ideas for the Midwest Senate race. Instead of facing more gridlock here, what if we create a special Senate committee to handle this? We could hold hearings with our Atlasian expects and draft both an explanation/analysis of our current system and/or propose a plan.

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

There's some ongoing discussion on this issue outside of the government.  Maybe we should wait and see if anything comes of that, or if someone else has a workable reform, and set this legislation aside for now.

[Sopranos Republican]

By a vote of 3-4, with two not voting, the amendment has failed.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

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Sponsor Feedback: Origination
Status: The VP may call 24 hours on objections.

[Sopranos Republican]

Senators have 24 hours to object to this amendment.

[TNF]

Clause 2 is the anti-union nonsense, no? I apologize for being too lazy to hit the back button.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Clause 2 is the anti-union nonsense, no? I apologize for being too lazy to hit the back button.

Yes:

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Its a lazy amendment design so don't feel bad. The horrible part is that I have go through an change all those damn Fritzcare references now.