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« on: March 14, 2014, 10:31:00 AM »

Does Ronald Reagan bear the lion's share of the responsibility (along with Thacher and Gorbi) for the end of the Cold War and the fall of the USSR? Or does he share that honor with Presidents who came before him and George HW Bush as well?
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« Reply #1 on: March 14, 2014, 10:38:54 AM »

No.
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« Reply #2 on: March 14, 2014, 10:47:31 AM »

lol
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« Reply #3 on: March 14, 2014, 11:00:29 AM »

lolno
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« Reply #4 on: March 14, 2014, 11:45:19 AM »

Nope.
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« Reply #5 on: March 14, 2014, 12:10:53 PM »

Obviously, it was Lyndon Johnson, blue collar Democrats, & progressive Nixon-esque Reoublicans who won the Cold War.
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« Reply #6 on: March 14, 2014, 12:50:58 PM »

There is no single person who has "won" the Cold War or "brought the Soviet Union down".

There was a mix of many developments, including pre-1970s containment, a nessesary Detente phase in the 70s, collapse of the Soviet economy and beaurecracy, dissident movements within the East Bloc, Gorbachev's reforms that wouldn't save the USSR, but enabled a peaceful conclusion, and others.

Of course the 80s under Reagan's leadership played a significant part, but just a part of a very complex process.
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« Reply #7 on: March 14, 2014, 12:54:08 PM »

Obviously, it was Lyndon Johnson, blue collar Democrats, & progressive Nixon-esque Reoublicans who won the Cold War.

Heh, I know why you said that, but Detente was mighty important. After the Vietnam, the US needed to catch a breath, so they can come back in the 80s. Detente allowed this and, by easing tensions for a while, helped the dissidents within the Soviet Bloc to organize and grow strong.   
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« Reply #8 on: March 14, 2014, 01:33:19 PM »

Does Ronald Reagan bear the lion's share of the responsibility (along with Thacher and Gorbi and John Paul II) for the end of the Cold War and the fall of the USSR? Or does he share that honor with Presidents who came before him and George HW Bush as well?

Fixed it up.

Anyway, even if he ended it, Nixon, Ford, and Carter were trying to end it and Reagan escalated it.
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« Reply #9 on: March 14, 2014, 01:54:55 PM »

No
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« Reply #10 on: March 14, 2014, 02:47:40 PM »

Yes (R; sane).  Gorbachev would have never made any of his reforms if Reagan hadn't pushed him to do it.
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« Reply #11 on: March 14, 2014, 03:03:39 PM »

No (I, normal).
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« Reply #12 on: March 14, 2014, 06:15:35 PM »

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« Reply #13 on: March 14, 2014, 06:18:37 PM »

Yes (R; sane).  Gorbachev would have never made any of his reforms if Reagan hadn't pushed him to do it.

Yeah. Just a shame nobody before Reagan was brilliant enough to just come out and directly tell him to tear down this wall.
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« Reply #14 on: March 14, 2014, 06:21:19 PM »

No and the CIA was also wrong to believe that the Soviet Union was at its strongest.
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« Reply #15 on: March 14, 2014, 11:22:27 PM »

There is no single person who has "won" the Cold War or "brought the Soviet Union down".

There was a mix of many developments, including pre-1970s containment, a nessesary Detente phase in the 70s, collapse of the Soviet economy and beaurecracy, dissident movements within the East Bloc, Gorbachev's reforms that wouldn't save the USSR, but enabled a peaceful conclusion, and others.

Of course the 80s under Reagan's leadership played a significant part, but just a part of a very complex process.

This is the correct answer.
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« Reply #16 on: March 16, 2014, 04:03:47 AM »

Yes but we would've won shortly after anyways. Socialism will always be crushed by capitalism and never let anyone ever tell you otherwise.
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« Reply #17 on: March 16, 2014, 07:08:58 AM »
« Edited: March 16, 2014, 07:11:36 AM by Strategos Autokrator »

If I had to point to person who is most responsible for the fall of the USSR it is Leonid Brezhnev, because under his leadership the "era of stagnation" began which ultimately led to communism's downfall.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Era_of_Stagnation
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« Reply #18 on: March 16, 2014, 11:52:54 AM »

Yes but we would've won shortly after anyways. Socialism Communism will always be crushed by capitalism itself and never let anyone ever tell you otherwise.

Someone might want to tell Scandinavia and their much higher standard of living that socialism is untenable.
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« Reply #19 on: March 16, 2014, 12:25:22 PM »

Yes but we would've won shortly after anyways. Socialism Communism will always be crushed by capitalism itself and never let anyone ever tell you otherwise.

Someone might want to tell Scandinavia and their much higher standard of living that socialism is untenable.

The Nordic model isn't socialism.
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