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Vice President Cassius Clay (Union-Kentucky)/Treasury Secretary Arthur Sewall (Union-Maine)
 
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Governor Benjamin Harrison (Whig-Indiana)/Columnist John O'Sullivan (Whig-New York)
 
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Activist Walter M. Gibson (Radical-Nevada)/Governor Charles Van Wyck (Radical-Nebraska)
 
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« on: March 16, 2014, 11:10:57 AM »

The 1880 conventions would lack the excitement and closeness of the 1876 election. Vice President Cassius Clay, though not a particularly conspicuous figure in the Tilden administration, was nominated decidedly on the first ballot. Though claiming to continue with Tilden's agenda, he made many of those who supported him uneasy during his acceptance speech. "We must continue with the policies of tight budgets, peace on the continent, and the end to patronage. However, to have a truly prosperous America, we must also cease the paralyzing influence that America's railroad trusts have on our government." The remark was met with some rancor, but the convention eventually settled. To balance out some of Clay's more radical views, the convention selected Arthur Sewall as his runningmate.

The Whig convention initially held more promise. John O'Sullivan, a once renowned newspaper editorialist, delivered a fiery speech at the convention floor. "There are still American citizens exploring the Great Frontier, shielded from barbaric Indians and bigamists with only their own spades and rifles. It is unconscionable for us not to provide them statehood, protection, and representation in Congress," O'Sullivan would bellow. Denis Kearney, a long-time Governor of California, would take a slightly different tack. "While we give great priority to settling new lands, we forget upon their general welfare after statehood. There are still injustices to be dealt with in the East, in the post-frontier America." Keaney's remarks were met with less applause. However, for all the dramatic flair and theater, the convention would settle on Governor Benjamin Harrison, uanimously. The convention, moved by O'Sullivan's speech, selected him as Harrison's Vice-Presidential candidate.

The Radical Party had received the most interest, given its renewed viability, but also had some growing pains to adjust to. Many Radicals were expecting Walter Gibson, the hero of 1876, to be nominated with little contention. However, balloting initially showed a deadlock between David Davis, Van Wyck (both of whom were Sumnerites) and John Lee, an adherent of both camps. Some speculate that the Radicals were bearish on the idea of Gibson, and that his nomination would make him the least in favor of civil service reform, given his indifference on the issue. However, with some arm-twisting and horse-trading, Walter Gibson would narrowly secure the nomination, hand-picking Charles Van Wyck to consolidate the party and make a play at Nebraska.

Three days.
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« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2014, 11:17:00 AM »

Clay/Sewall
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« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2014, 02:26:21 PM »

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« Reply #3 on: March 16, 2014, 06:15:29 PM »

Gibson/Van Wyck. Let us have a Radical president at last. Though I would not be too opposed to a Cassius Clay administration.
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« Reply #4 on: March 16, 2014, 07:16:53 PM »

Muhammad Ali is running for president? Huh
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« Reply #5 on: March 16, 2014, 07:22:31 PM »

Muhammad Ali is running for president? Huh

This Cassius Clay, I think.
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« Reply #6 on: March 16, 2014, 08:44:19 PM »

Muhammad Ali is running for president? Huh

Assuming you're not being sarcastic, I was hoping you'd know your famous abolitionists, especially one with ties to The Great Compromiser himself.
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« Reply #7 on: March 16, 2014, 09:33:31 PM »

WI: Clay/Foreman.
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« Reply #8 on: March 17, 2014, 10:35:26 AM »


If we could elect fictional characters, Rocky Balboa/Apollo Creed.
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« Reply #9 on: March 17, 2014, 11:02:10 AM »

Hey, Zioneer, how about we strike a deal? If Clay wins this, we can field a combined Gibson/Some Whig ticket in 1884, thus allowing both parties to get a President (Gibson will die in early 1888). Does that sound good?
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« Reply #10 on: March 17, 2014, 11:41:05 AM »

Hey, Zioneer, how about we strike a deal? If Clay wins this, we can field a combined Gibson/Some Whig ticket in 1884, thus allowing both parties to get a President (Gibson will die in early 1888). Does that sound good?

If these results hold up, I'll allow it in '84.

A Radical victory would be a nice sending-off present to Zioneer.
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« Reply #11 on: March 17, 2014, 11:58:33 AM »

Hey, Zioneer, how about we strike a deal? If Clay wins this, we can field a combined Gibson/Some Whig ticket in 1884, thus allowing both parties to get a President (Gibson will die in early 1888). Does that sound good?

Hmm... sure. I'd be up for that. But I'm still holding out for the Radicals winning.
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« Reply #12 on: March 17, 2014, 02:20:04 PM »

Yesss, a tie!
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« Reply #13 on: March 17, 2014, 02:56:16 PM »

In the event of a House vote, let it be known that I will strongly write my Congressman to tell him to support the Radicals.
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« Reply #14 on: March 17, 2014, 03:39:07 PM »

In the event of a House vote, let it be known that I will strongly write my Congressman to tell him to support the Radicals.

Agreed.
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« Reply #15 on: March 19, 2014, 12:18:47 PM »

Well, I suppose the real fun begins now.
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« Reply #16 on: March 19, 2014, 02:53:38 PM »

Mormon President!
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« Reply #17 on: March 19, 2014, 06:33:19 PM »

What happened to the primaries/conventions??? Sad
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« Reply #18 on: March 19, 2014, 06:47:47 PM »

What happened to the primaries/conventions??? Sad

They happened. Harrison was nominated unanimously, Clay was nominated unanimously, there wasn't much turnout on the Radical side.
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« Reply #19 on: March 19, 2014, 07:18:45 PM »

Crap, I was confident that Gibson would stay one vote ahead. Well, off to the House we go. I'm pulling for Gibson, of course. I'll take Sewall as VP; anyone but O'Sullivan.
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« Reply #20 on: March 19, 2014, 08:33:31 PM »

Crap, I was confident that Gibson would stay one vote ahead. Well, off to the House we go. I'm pulling for Gibson, of course. I'll take Sewall as VP; anyone but O'Sullivan.

It would have probably gone to the House anyway. And O'Sullivan's not even in the running - the Senate picks from the top two VP candidates. Also, since we don't have to do any of that unity ticket stuff, I suggest nominating John Ingalls for VP in 1884, so he'll become President when Gibson dies.
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« Reply #21 on: March 19, 2014, 11:10:50 PM »

Crap, I was confident that Gibson would stay one vote ahead. Well, off to the House we go. I'm pulling for Gibson, of course. I'll take Sewall as VP; anyone but O'Sullivan.

It would have probably gone to the House anyway. And O'Sullivan's not even in the running - the Senate picks from the top two VP candidates. Also, since we don't have to do any of that unity ticket stuff, I suggest nominating John Ingalls for VP in 1884, so he'll become President when Gibson dies.

Sounds good to me; if I'm a hypothetical Senator in this situation, then I'd nominate Ingalls then and have Sewall now.
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